Find parametric equations for the tangent line at the point

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The discussion revolves around finding parametric equations for the tangent line at a specific point on a curve defined by the equations x = cos(t), y = sin(t), and z = t. The point of interest is given as (cos(4π/6), sin(4π/6), 4π/6).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivative of the curve and the choice of parameter t for evaluating the tangent line. There is uncertainty about the correct value of t to use and the implications of that choice.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to determine the appropriate value of t by comparing the original parametric equations with the given point. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the choice of t, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a focus on ensuring that the chosen parameter aligns with the specified point on the curve.

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Homework Statement


Find parametric equations for the tangent line at the point

(\cos(\frac{4 \pi}{6}) ,\sin(\frac{4 \pi}{6}) ,\frac{4 \pi}{6}) )

on the curve


x=\cos t,\ y=\sin t, \ z=t

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Took the derivative
r'(t)=( -sint, cost, 1)

Here's where I start to fall apart...I'm not sure what to do...but..is this close...

cos(4pi/6)= -1/2

r'(-1/2) = (-sin(-1/2), cos(-1/2), 1)

so,

x= (-1/2) + (-sin(-1/2))t
y= (sin(4pi/6)) + (cos(-1/2)t
z= 4pi/6 + t

So where did I go wrong? I hope I'm not that far off. If anything needs clarified, please ask.
 
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undrcvrbro said:

Homework Statement


Find parametric equations for the tangent line at the point

(\cos(\frac{4 \pi}{6}) ,\sin(\frac{4 \pi}{6}) ,\frac{4 \pi}{6}) )

on the curve


x=\cos t,\ y=\sin t, \ z=t

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Took the derivative
r'(t)=( -sint, cost, 1)

Here's where I start to fall apart...I'm not sure what to do...but..is this close...

cos(4pi/6)= -1/2

r'(-1/2) = (-sin(-1/2), cos(-1/2), 1)
based on what you have said why choose the point t = -1/2? i would think t = 4.pi/6 is a better choice ;) and what the question asks for

undrcvrbro said:
so,

x= (-1/2) + (-sin(-1/2))t
y= (sin(4pi/6)) + (cos(-1/2)t
z= 4pi/6 + t

So where did I go wrong? I hope I'm not that far off. If anything needs clarified, please ask.

then once you have the tangent vector r', and the point of the curve say p, the equation o the tangent line will be

f(s) = s.r'+p
 
Thank you! I have the right answer, but I don't understand why you chose t= 4pi/6..can you explain?
 
compare you original parametric equations with the point you are asked to evaluate it at, this gives you the correct t value
 
lanedance said:
compare you original parametric equations with the point you are asked to evaluate it at, this gives you the correct t value

Ohhh. Yikes, I can't believe I didn't notice that! Thanks again!
 

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