Find Plane Perpendicular to Vector & Pass Through Point

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a plane that is perpendicular to a given vector and passes through a specified point. Participants explore the mathematical principles involved, including the use of dot products and parametric equations, as well as providing hints and suggestions for solving the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the relationship between the normal vector of the plane and the equation of the plane, suggesting that the equation can be derived from the dot product being equal to zero.
  • Another participant suggests visualizing the problem by drawing a line parallel to the given vector and finding the foot of the perpendicular from the specified point to this line.
  • A different participant outlines the general forms of parametric equations for lines in three dimensions and the equation of a plane, indicating how these relate to the problem at hand.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the help received and mentions having solved the problem, reflecting on the ease of the solution compared to the initial struggle.
  • Another participant introduces a new problem involving finding the interior angles of a triangle given its vertices, indicating a shift in focus from the original topic.
  • Subsequent replies discuss the use of the dot product to find angles between vectors, suggesting a method for solving the new problem presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical principles involved in finding the equation of the plane, but there is no consensus on a single method as multiple approaches are suggested. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to the new problem introduced about finding interior angles.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific mathematical concepts such as the dot product and parametric equations without fully resolving all assumptions or steps necessary for the original problem. The transition to the new problem introduces additional complexity that is not fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying calculus, particularly those interested in vector mathematics and the geometry of planes and angles in three-dimensional space.

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Hey guys; I am studying calculus and i came across a problem for which the book does not have an answer...

how do i find the equation of a plane perpendicular to vector (2i+3j+4k) and passing though
the point (1,2,3)

^^the numbers are some i just made up and no this is not a homework q...in fact i would be glad if any of you can kindly explain to me how this problem can be solved and/or if they can give me the link to some webpage where they have stuff about this

thanks :)
 
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The scalar product or dot product, allows you to tell if two vectors are orthogonal or perpendicular among other things. So if you can visualize that the vector [tex](2, 3, 4)^{T}[/tex] must be orthogonal to every point in the plane then the plane through the origin with normal vector [tex](2, 3, 4)^{T}[/tex] would be given by the equation [tex]2x + 3y +4z = 0[/tex]. This is evident because [tex](2, 3, 4) \bullet ( x, y, z )^{T} = 2x + 3y +4z = 0[/tex] implies [tex](2, 3, 4)^{T}[/tex] is orthogonal to every vector in the plane. Now I leave it to you to figure out how to shift the plane so that it goes through the specified point.
 
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Draw the perpendicular!

starsiege said:
how do i find the equation of a plane perpendicular to vector (2i+3j+4k) and passing though
the point (1,2,3)

Hi starsiege! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Hint: All lines in that plane will be perpendicular to that vector!

So draw the line through the origin, O, parallel to (2i+3j+4k).

You want to find the point, F, on that line which is the foot of the perpendicular from (1,2,3), which we'll call P.

Call F (2a,3a,4a). Then what is the condition for OF to be perpendicular to FP?
 
If you are expected to be able to do a problem like this, you should already know two things:

1) A line in 3 dimensions can be written in parametric equations, x= At+ x0, y= Bt+ y0, z= Ct+ z0, where (x0, y0, z0) is point on the line and [itex]A\vec{i}+ B\vec{j}+ C\vec{k}[/itex] is parallel to the line.

2) A plane can be written as a single equation, A(x- x0)+ B(y- y0)+ C0(z- z0)= 0 where (x0, y0, z0) is a point on the plane and [itex]A\vec{i}+ B\vec{j}+ C\vec{k}[/itex] is perpendicular to the plane.

how do i find the equation of a plane perpendicular to vector (2i+3j+4k) and passing though the point (1,2,3)
You are given [itex]A\vec{i}+ B\vec{j}+ C\vec{k}[/itex] and (x0, y0, z0).

(My mistake, you don't really need to know (1) to do this problem!)
 
thank you everyone for your help and suggestions.!

i solved it...in fact I am ashamed to see how easy it was... :redface:
but even then i might not have found the answer if not for ur help! thanks again

Ps: i really should stop doing math till 1 am :zzz: it took me tens of mins to even get my mind around problems at that time while it took less than a min in the morning.
 
hehe ran into another prob as i was going through

how do i go about a problem that gives me 3 points of a triangle A,B,C [ A (x1,y1), B(x2,y2),C(x3,y3) ] and asks me to find the interior angles of it?

how should i start on this problem?(this is in the section that we use dot product)
 
Have you learned that, in additon to the "add the products of the components" formula, [itex]\vec{u}\cdot\vec{v}= ||\vec{u}||||\vec{v}|| cos(\theta)[/itex], where [itex]\theta[/itex] is the angle between [itex]\vec{u}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{v}[/itex]? That should do it easily.
 
hey , thanks :) i figured it out soon after i posted the q but was not able to delete my q right away cos i was away from the comp. but thanks again.
 

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