Find Symmetrical Components of 5-Phase System

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Finding the symmetrical components of a 5-phase system involves identifying five distinct sequences: the positive sequence (A-B-C-D-E), the first negative sequence (A-C-E-B-D), the second negative sequence (A-D-B-E-C), and the zero sequence where all phases are in unison. Unlike the three-phase system, which has three components, the five-phase system expands this to five components, reflecting the complexity of the phase arrangement. There is no standard reference for Fortescue transformation in non-three-phase systems, and tools like Simulink currently lack support for five-phase analysis. Understanding these sequences is crucial for analyzing the performance of synchronous machines in multi-phase systems. This discussion highlights the need for further resources and tools to effectively work with five-phase symmetrical components.
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I wonder if someone can help me how to find the symmetrical components of a 5-phase system. What would be the positive and negative sequences? I'm saying this because in a 3-phase system I can find the positive, negative and zero sequence in function of line currents.
 
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Have you tried your self?

check out wikipedia

Or the famous article by Fortescue

As a push in the right direction, how many balanced systems (sequences) do you need?
 
I have no reference on doing fortescue transformation for system with phases different from 3.
 
In fact, I'm trying to perform this using simulink, but it does not have any block with phases different from three. So I don't know how to watch the qd0 -waveforms of a synchronous machine with 5-phase .
 
See "Symmetrical Components" by Wagner & Evans, 1933, still in print.

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danilorj said:
I wonder if someone can help me how to find the symmetrical components of a 5-phase system. What would be the positive and negative sequences? I'm saying this because in a 3-phase system I can find the positive, negative and zero sequence in function of line currents.

With 3-phase there are 3 components, I1 (positive, A-B-C), I2 (negative, C-B-A), and I0 (zero, all 3 in unison), called "sequences".

With 5-phase there are 5 components. They are I1 (positive, A-B-C-D-E), I2 (A-C-E-B-D). I3 (A-D-B-E-C), I4 (negative, E-D-C-B-A), and I0 (zero, all 5 in unison).

In general for n phases there will be n sets of phasors. No. 1 is the positive sequence, having the same rotation as the overall system, i.e. A, B, C, etc. No. 2 is the next set where the sequence is every 2nd phase, i.e. A-C-E-G, etc. No. 3 is next, with sequence A-D-G, etc. which is every 3rd phase. The next to last set is no. "n-1" which is negative sequence, i.e. n, n-1, n-2, ---, C, B, A. Finally we have zero sequence, all n phases in unison.

Claude
 
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