Find the change in the time required, if acceleration increases by the differential amount 'da'

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The discussion centers on the relationship between acceleration and time, specifically how changes in acceleration (denoted as 'da') affect the time required (T) for an object to reach a certain velocity (v_f). The original equations derived include T = v_f/a and L = (1/2)(v_f^2/a), leading to the conclusion that an increase in acceleration results in a decrease in time. The participants confirm that both an increase in acceleration and power (dP) lead to a higher final velocity, validating the mathematical approach taken, while also addressing the importance of differentiating with respect to the correct variables.

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Homework Statement
A runner accelerates from rest through a measured track distance in time ##T## with acceleration ##a## (constant). If runner was to increase his acceleration by differential amount ##da##, what is the change in the time required for the run?
Relevant Equations
##a = \frac{dv}{dt}##
According to the problem statement: $$a = \frac{dv}{dt} = const \implies dt = \frac{dv}{a} \implies \int_{0}^{T} \,dt = \frac{1}{a} \int_{0}^{v_f} \,dv \implies T = \frac{v_f}{a}$$ Now, the distance covered is given by, $$L = \int_{0}^{T} v \,dt \implies L = \frac{1}{a} \int_{0}^{v_f} v \,dv \implies L = \frac{v_f^2}{2a} \implies L = \frac{a}{2} \frac{v_f^2}{a^2} \implies L = \frac{aT^2}{2} \implies 2L = aT^2 = const$$ Differentiating, $$0 = \frac{da}{dT}T^2 + 2aT \implies T^2 da+ 2 a T dT = 0 \implies -T da = 2 a dT \implies dT = - \frac{T}{2a} da$$ Now, I would like to know if this is correct and obviously, the object would end up with a higher velocity at the end (after the increase of ##da##), right? The actual problem was about power, but I reformulated it. Now, for the sake of it, let's say that it was power instead of acceleration. It would also mean a higher velocity at the end (after the increase of ##dP##), right?
 
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Heisenberg7 said:
Differentiating, $$0 = \frac{da}{dt}t^2 + 2at \implies t^2 da+ 2 a t dt = 0 \implies -t da = 2 a dt \implies dt = - \frac{t}{2a} da$$
Why are you differentiating wrt t? The question is how a change in a affects T (not t). So you need to find T as a function of a.
 
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haruspex said:
Why are you differentiating wrt t? The question is how a change in a affects T (not t). So you need to find T as a function of a.
Oops, my bad. It should indeed be ##T## instead of ##t##. Anyway, could you answer my 2 questions:

Now, I would like to know if this is correct and obviously, the object would end up with a higher velocity at the end (after the increase of 𝑑𝑎), right? The actual problem was about power, but I reformulated it. Now, for the sake of it, let's say that it was power instead of acceleration. It would also mean a higher velocity at the end (after the increase of 𝑑𝑃), right?
 
Heisenberg7 said:
Oops, my bad. It should indeed be ##T## instead of ##t##.
Ok, but differentiating wrt it is wrong either way. What should you have differentiated and wrt what?
Heisenberg7 said:
the object would end up with a higher velocity at the end (after the increase of 𝑑𝑎), right?
Yes.
Heisenberg7 said:
The actual problem was about power, but I reformulated it. Now, for the sake of it, let's say that it was power instead of acceleration. It would also mean a higher velocity at the end (after the increase of 𝑑𝑃), right?
Yes.
 
haruspex said:
Ok, but differentiating wrt it is wrong either way. What should you have differentiated and wrt what?
Hmm, I'm not sure really. Could you elaborate? I simply followed the blueprint of this solution:
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Heisenberg7 said:
Hmm, I'm not sure really. Could you elaborate? I simply followed the blueprint of this solution:
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Hmm.. yes, that is valid. Sorry for the noise.
I think I was thrown by the t/T confusion.
 
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L=\frac{a}{2}T^2
T=\sqrt{\frac{2L}{a}}
dT=-\sqrt{\frac{L}{2}}a^{-\frac{3}{2}}da
Is it OK?
 
anuttarasammyak said:
L=\frac{a}{2}T^2
T=\sqrt{\frac{2L}{a}}
dT=-\sqrt{\frac{L}{2}}a^{-\frac{3}{2}}da
Is it OK?
I think so. But I only need it with respect to ##T##, ##a## and ##da##. ##L## is a surplus (we can get rid of this by just plugging in for ##L##).
 
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