Find the differential equation or system of differential equations

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Find the differential equation or system of differential equations ***

Find the differential equation or system of differential equations assoicated with the following flows
a) ##\phi_t (x) = \frac{x}{\sqrt{1-2x^2t}} ## on ##{\mathbb R} ##

b) ##\phi_t (x,y) = (xe^t, \frac{y}{1-y^t}) ## on ##{\mathbb R}^2 ##

The ways I solve these two questions are that I simply take the derivatives of them

for (a), ##\left.\dfrac{d}{dt}\right|_{t=0} \phi_t (x)## if this is the right way, check you check my answer, ##\frac{-x}{2} - 2x^2##

for (b), ##\left.\dfrac{d}{dt}\right|_{t=0} \phi_t (x,y)## if this is the right way, check you check my answer, ##(xe^t, \frac{ty}{(1-y^t)^2})##
 
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In (a), I assume that what you are looking for is a differential equation involving only ϕ, dϕ/dx and x.
If so, you need to differentiate wrt x, and you can't get rid of the t just by evaluating at t=0.
 
haruspex said:
In (a), I assume that what you are looking for is a differential

Just edit my question...please take a look again to see if anything changes to your response
 
Askhwhelp said:
Just edit my question...please take a look again to see if anything changes to your response
Yes, it means I'm a bit out of my depth.. but I think you need to bear in mind that x = x(t), and it's dϕ/dt, not ∂ϕ/∂t.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, it means I'm a bit out of my depth.. but I think you need to bear in mind that x = x(t), and it's dϕ/dt, not ∂ϕ/∂t.

I'm not an expert in the subject either, but in flow problems like this I think you have ##x(t)=\phi(x,t)##. Treat the x in ##\phi(x,t)## as a constant. And I'd be interested in how Askhwhelp got either solution. I think the first one is just plain wrong. And for another thing, they don't look like differential equations to me and the second one even has a t in it. How can that be if you set t=0?
 
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Having read up on this, I think I understand it well enough now to give a more helpful answer.
Askhwhelp said:
for (a), ##\left.\dfrac{d}{dt}\right|_{t=0} \phi_t (x)## my answer, ##\frac{-x}{2} - 2x^2##
As Dick says, it should be partial differentiation, the result should be equated to dx/dt, and that answer is wrong.
Please post your working.
 
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