Find the induced EMF and Lenz' law

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving electromagnetic induction, specifically focusing on a rectangular coil in a magnetic field that is increasing in strength. Participants explore the implications of Lenz's law and the behavior of the coil's movable side in response to changes in magnetic flux.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the direction of the induced emf and its relation to the movement of the coil's side. Questions arise regarding the necessity of the side's movement and the relationship between changing magnetic flux and induced current. Some participants suggest that reducing the area of the coil could be an alternative to inducing current.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants offering insights into Lenz's law and the Lorentz force. While there is no explicit consensus, guidance regarding the relationship between changing flux and induced current has been provided, leading to further clarification of the concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding of Lenz's law and related concepts such as the Lorentz force and Ampere's law. The original problem description included a diagram that is not present in the text, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


There is a magnetic field directed inside/ towards the screen. There is also a single rectangular coil parallel to the screen where one of the sides are movable. The magnetc field increases, what happens to this movable side of the coil. This is my description of the problem, the original was displayed diagrammatically so please ask me to clarify if needed.

Homework Equations


Lenz's law

3. The Attempt at a Solution

The induced emf in the coil would be anti-clockwise. In order to oppose this change an emf will be induced in the coil. I don't know why the side of the coil should move at all but the answer is that it moves to the right. Can anyone explain to me why?
 
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NihalRi said:

Homework Statement


There is a magnetic field directed inside/ towards the screen. There is also a single rectangular coil parallel to the screen where one of the sides are movable. The magnetc field increases, what happens to this movable side of the coil. This is my description of the problem, the original was displayed diagrammatically so please ask me to clarify if needed.

Homework Equations


Lenz's law

3. The Attempt at a Solution

The induced emf in the coil would be anti-clockwise. In order to oppose this change an emf will be induced in the coil. I don't know why the side of the coil should move at all but the answer is that it moves to the right. Can anyone explain to me why?
Can you write out Lenz' Law for us? And are you familiar with Ampere's Law? And have you learned about the Lorentz Force yet?
 
Didn't learn about Lorentz Force but I do know ampere's law.
So Lenz's law- The induced current will be in a direction to oppose the change in magnetic flux that created the current. In this case -
Φ=BA
Φ(flux),(B) magnetic field strength and A (area of loop)
So it occurred to me now that oposing a change in flux is like keeping Φ constant. If B is increasing then it makes sense that A would have to decrease to keep it constant. This agrees with the answer as moving the side of the coil to the right would decrease the area(would make better sense with the diagram).
So is this like an alternative to producing an emf?I mean just by reducing the area a change in flux was avoided so a current won't be induced in the coil. I am guessing this is what actually happens but why reduce area over inducing current?
 
NihalRi said:
So is this like an alternative to producing an emf?I mean just by reducing the area a change in flux was avoided so a current won't be induced in the coil. I am guessing this is what actually happens but why reduce area over inducing current?
I don't know if that's a correct interpretation. It may be, but it's not the explanation I'm familiar with.

Changing the flux through the loop will induce a current in the loop. The moving charges in the wire sections experience the Lorentz Force F = qv X B which is normal to both the charges' velocity vector v and the B field vector. That is where the force comes from to move the wire. You just have to use Ampere's Law and the Righthand Rule to figure out which way the wire moves.
 
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berkeman said:
I don't know if that's a correct interpretation. It may be, but it's not the explanation I'm familiar with.

Changing the flux through the loop will induce a current in the loop. The moving charges in the wire sections experience the Lorentz Force F = qv X B which is normal to both the charges' velocity vector v and the B field vector. That is where the force comes from to move the wire. You just have to use Ampere's Law and the Righthand Rule to figure out which way the wire moves.

Yes! This makes so much more sense, it works. Thank you
 
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