Find the point on the curve y = x^2 that is closest to the point (0, b).

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The problem involves finding the point on the curve y = x² that is closest to a given point (0, b). The context is rooted in optimization techniques, specifically using Lagrange multipliers to identify critical points.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Lagrange multipliers, with attempts to derive equations based on the method. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the derived equations and the consideration of critical points, including the potential for multiple solutions based on the value of b.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts and raising questions about the implications of their findings. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to check which points are minimum distances, acknowledging the complexity introduced by the variable b.

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There is uncertainty regarding the value of b, which affects the number of critical points identified. Participants note that the Lagrange multiplier method may yield multiple critical points, necessitating further evaluation to determine the closest point.

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Homework Statement


Find the point on the curve y = x2 that is closest to the point (0, b).

Homework Equations


Lagrange multipliers

The Attempt at a Solution


L(x,y,λ) = x2 + (y-b)2 - λ(x2-y)
Lx = 2x - 2λx = 0
Ly = 2y - 2b + λ = 0
Lλ = x2 - y = 0

Then solve for x and y? Is this right?
 
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It's ok so far. Keep going.
 
2x = 2λx -> λ = 1
2y = 2b + λ -> y = (2b+1)/2
x^2 = y -> x = ((2b+1)/2)^1/2
 
You've got a sign error in your y equation. And you've also ignored a possible solution of the first equation. How about x=0? And in the last equation there are two solutions for x.
 
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So basically, there are three points on the curve that are equally closest to (0,b)?
 
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So basically, there are three points on the curve that are equally closest to (0,b)?

Depends on b. The lagrange multiplier method only gives you the critical points. There might be one or three of them depending on the value of b. You then have to check them to figure out which is closest.
 
Well, I was given the point (0, b), without any information about b, so I guess I should just put down all three points then...
 
No, whatever b is you should check to see which points are minimum. You have only shown that they are critical points. It is quite possible that one of the points is a local maximum for the distance.
 
Lxx = 2 - 2λ
Lyy = 2
Lxy = 0

if λ = 1, then discriminant = LxxLyy - Lxy2 = 0...
 
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Why don't you just plug the points you get into the distance formula and figure out which one is closest?
 

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