Find the radius of the osculating circle

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The problem involves finding the radius of the osculating circle for the curve defined by the intersection of a cylinder and a plane at a specific point.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to start the problem and attempts to find points of intersection. Some participants suggest finding a parametric representation of the curve and relate it to the geometry of a circle. There is discussion about using trigonometric functions to express coordinates and the relationship between curvature and radius.

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Participants are exploring different methods to parametrize the curve and are discussing the implications of their parametrization on finding the radius of curvature. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric functions and curvature, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the setup of the problem and the relationships between the equations defining the curve. There is an acknowledgment of the need to find a parametric expression and the role of curvature in determining the radius.

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Homework Statement



Let C be the curve of intersection of the cylinder x^2-2x+y^2 =3 and the plane z=y+1. Find the radius of the osculating circle of the curve C at point (1,2,3)


The Attempt at a Solution



I am not really sure how to start it...
i tried finding the point of intersection by setting y=0 and got z=1, x=3, but doesn't really make sense to me to do so. I also tried setting the equation to each other, but it doesn't seem to make sense too..

it would be appreciated if anyone can tell me how to begin and guide me through it

Thanks in advance
 
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Your first job is to find a parametric expression for the curve r(t)=(x(t),y(t),z(t)). Write the first equation as (x-1)^2+y^2=2. That's the equation of a circle with center (1,0) and radius sqrt(2), right? Can you write expressions for x and y in terms of cos(t) and sin(t) where t is the angle the point makes with the circle center? Now can you use z=y+1 to write z in terms of t? Now I'm guessing you probably know how to find the radius from the parametric expression using the curvature.
 
Dick said:
Your first job is to find a parametric expression for the curve r(t)=(x(t),y(t),z(t)). Write the first equation as (x-1)^2+y^2=2. That's the equation of a circle with center (1,0) and radius sqrt(2), right? Can you write expressions for x and y in terms of cos(t) and sin(t) where t is the angle the point makes with the circle center? Now can you use z=y+1 to write z in terms of t? Now I'm guessing you probably know how to find the radius from the parametric expression using the curvature.

I think i get it, but here is what i got

re parametrize the intersection, and i got c=(x=2cost+1,y=2sint, z= 2sint+1) and point (1,2,3) is t=pi/2
and to find radius is R=1/curvature at t=pi/2?
 
fireb said:
I think i get it, but here is what i got

re parametrize the intersection, and i got c=(x=2cost+1,y=2sint, z= 2sint+1) and point (1,2,3) is t=pi/2
and to find radius is R=1/curvature at t=pi/2?

That looks ok to me.
 

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