Find Value of k for Equation 4√x=2x+k: 1, 2, or 0 Solutions?

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The discussion focuses on finding the value of k in the equation 4√x = 2x + k to determine the number of solutions it has. The equation is transformed into a quadratic form, leading to the discriminant analysis to identify conditions for one, two, or no real solutions. For one solution, the discriminant must equal zero; for two solutions, it must be greater than zero; and for no real solutions, it must be less than zero. The final values derived indicate that k = 25/128 results in one solution, k > 25/128 leads to no solutions, and k < 25/128 results in two real solutions. Understanding the discriminant is crucial for solving this equation effectively.
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Homework Statement



For the equation 4(times)sqrtx= 2x+k find a value such that k the equation has (a) one solution, (b) two solutions, (c) no solutions

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



From original equation, I got to:

sqrtx=(2x+k)/4

x=((2x+k)/4)^2

x= (4x^2+4xk+k^2)/16

simplified to: x= 1/4x^2 +1/4xk + 1/16k^2

Put it into quadratic formula and got the discriminant as: sqrt((1/4k)^2 -(4)(1/4)(k^2/16))

Dont know what to do next... Please help and show all work. Thank You
 
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darshanpatel said:

Homework Statement



For the equation 4(times)sqrt(x)= 2x+k find a value such that k the equation has (a) one solution, (b) two solutions, (c) no solutions


Homework Equations



None

The Attempt at a Solution



From original equation, I got to:

sqrt(x)=(2x+k)/4

x=((2x+k)/4)^2

x= (4x^2+4xk+k^2)/16

simplified to: x= 1/4x^2 +1/4xk + 1/16k^2

Put it into quadratic formula and got the discriminant as: sqrt((1/4k)^2 -(4)(1/4)(k^2/16))

Don't know what to do next... Please help and show all work. Thank You
You don't have the equation, x= 1/4x^2 +1/4xk + 1/16k^2, in the correct form to use the quadratic formula. There's an x on the left hand side.

More simply:
Square the original equation, \displaystyle 4\sqrt{x}= 2x+k

giving \displaystyle 16x= 4x^2+4kx+k^2

\displaystyle 4x^2+(4k-16)x+k^2=0​

Use the discriminant, b2-4ac, to determine the value of k needed for 0, 1, or 2 real solutions.
 
Oh, thanks, So for 1 solution the discriminant would have to be 0, and for 2 solutions ≤0 and what would it have to be for 0 solutions? just ≥0? becuase can't u still get 2 imaginary solutions?
 
the final answer I got was: k=25/128 for one solution k>25/128 for no solutions and k<25/128 for 2 real solutions
 
darshanpatel said:
Oh, thanks, So for 1 solution the discriminant would have to be 0, and for 2 solutions ≤0 and what would it have to be for 0 solutions? just ≥0? becuase can't u still get 2 imaginary solutions?
No, not quite.
If b2-4ac = 0, there is 1 real solution.
If b2-4ac > 0, there are 2 real solutions.
If b2-4ac < 0, there are no real solutions (but there are 2 complex solutions).
 
oh yeah, sorry, I accidentally included the "equal to" but I fixed it in the final answer..
 
darshanpatel said:
Oh, thanks, So for 1 solution the discriminant would have to be 0, and for 2 solutions ≤0 and what would it have to be for 0 solutions? just ≥0? becuase can't u still get 2 imaginary solutions?
darshanpatel said:
oh yeah, sorry, I accidentally included the "equal to" but I fixed it in the final answer..
The "equal to" is not the only thing that's incorrect in the bolded part above.
 
oh, it wasnt bolded in previous part, but i see, >0 is 2 solutions, <0 no solutions( complex) = 0 one solution
 
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