Find values for this piecewise function so it can be differentiable

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The discussion revolves around a piecewise function defined for different intervals, specifically examining its differentiability across the entire domain from negative to positive infinity. The function is expressed in terms of parameters a, b, c, and d, with specific conditions at x=0.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the conditions required for the function to be differentiable, particularly at the point x=0. There are discussions about the continuity of the function and the implications of the chosen values for c and d. Questions arise regarding the derivatives of the function segments and their limits as x approaches 0 from both sides.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the correctness of derivatives and the implications of their choices for parameters. There is an ongoing exploration of the limits of the derivatives as x approaches 0, with some participants suggesting that specific values for b may be necessary for differentiability.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that the function's differentiability is tied to its continuity, and participants are examining the requirements for the derivatives to exist at the transition point x=0. Some confusion exists regarding the application of the product rule in differentiation, particularly for the segment involving sin(1/x).

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Homework Statement



Fx= ax^2 + bx + c -infiniti<x<0
= D x=0
=x^2 sin(1/x) - 2 0<x<infiniti

a) FInd all vlaues of a, b, c and d that make the function f differntiable on the domain -∞<x<∞

b) Using the values founbd in part a, determine lim x-> 0- f'(x), lim x->0+ f'(x) and f'(0). Is f'(x) continuous at x=0. Explain.


The Attempt at a Solution



I need help with part b)... a=all real numbers b= all real numbers c= -2 d = -2
 
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zaddyzad said:

Homework Statement



Code:
F(x)= ax^2 + bx + c       -infiniti<x<0
    = D                         x=0
    =x^2 sin(1/x) - 2      0<x<infiniti
a) Find all values of a, b, c and d that make the function f differentiable on the domain -∞<x<∞

b) Using the values found in part a, determine lim x-> 0- f'(x), lim x->0+ f'(x) and f'(0). Is f'(x) continuous at x=0. Explain.

The Attempt at a Solution



I need help with part b)... a=all real numbers b= all real numbers c= -2 d = -2
You need help with part a) also.
To be differentiable, the function must also be continuous. You've accomplished that with your choices of c and d .

To be differentiable at x=0, f'(0) must exist.

What is [itex]\displaystyle \ \frac{d}{dx}(ax^2 + bx + c)\ ?[/itex]

What is [itex]\displaystyle \ \frac{d}{dx}(x^2 \sin(1/x) - 2)\ ?[/itex]

b is not arbitrary. It must be some specific value.
 
f'(x) = 2ax + b
f'(x) = 2x cos(1/x)(-1/x^2)
 
SammyS said:
You need help with part a) also.
To be differentiable, the function must also be continuous. You've accomplished that with your choices of c and d .

To be differentiable at x=0, f'(0) must exist.

What is [itex]\displaystyle \ \frac{d}{dx}(ax^2 + bx + c)\ ?[/itex]

What is [itex]\displaystyle \ \frac{d}{dx}(x^2 \sin(1/x) - 2)\ ?[/itex]

b is not arbitrary. It must be some specific value.

f'(x) = 2ax + b
f'(x) = (-2/x) cos(1/x)... I guess f'(0) doesn't exist for this?
 
lim = 2a(0) + b = f'(0) = lim (-2/x) cos(1/x)
x-> 0- ........... x->0+

So B = 0...
 
How do you find the
lim for the f'(x) of the sin function.
x-> 0+

Or do you say the derivative is not constant at x=0 b/c there isn't a answer at that point ?
 
zaddyzad said:
f'(x) = 2x cos(1/x)(-1/x^2)

That's not how the product rule works.
 
zaddyzad said:
f'(x) = 2ax + b , for x < 0
f'(x) = 2x cos(1/x)(-1/x^2) , for x > 0

Your f'(x) is wrong for x > 0.

You need to use the product rule. ( In other words, your derivative is incorrect for x2sin(1/x). )
 

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