Find w (frequency) using energy equation

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The problem involves a particle of mass M moving under the influence of two forces, requiring the determination of the potential energy function, energy diagram, equilibrium position, and the frequency of small oscillations around the equilibrium. The context is rooted in classical mechanics, specifically dealing with forces and oscillatory motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of the frequency formula and question the application of the formula for angular frequency in the context of the given forces. There is an exploration of the differential equation related to the forces involved and the implications of the inverse square law on the oscillation frequency.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the correct application of formulas, while others are exploring potential errors in the original calculations. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the relationship between angular frequency and frequency, but no consensus has been reached on the correct frequency value.

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Participants note that the original poster's calculation of frequency may be incorrect, and there is a mention of a system check that validates answers, indicating constraints on acceptable solutions. The discussion also highlights the complexity of the differential equation derived from the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass M moves in one dimension along the positive x axis, under the influence of two forces. The first force is a constant force, with magnitude B and direction toward the origin. The second force is an inverse square law, with magnitude A/x2 and direction away from the origin. Find the potential energy function, and sketch the energy diagram for motion with kinetic energy K. Find the equilibrium position.
Calculate the frequency of small oscillations around the equilibrium. [Data: M = 0.68 kg; B = 36 N; A = 30 Nm2.]



Homework Equations

Force=30*x**-2 - 36 = -du/dx

u= 30*x**-1 + 36*x
du/dx= -30*x**-2 + 36 set equal zero get equalibrium xzero value
d**2u/dx**2= 60x**-3

xzero at equalib= (30/36)**.5

k=d**2u/dx**2= 60x**-3 letting x=(30/36)**.5 so k=78.86

m=0.68 given above// so w= (k/m)**.5 w=(78.86/.68)**.5= 10.78 1/s


The Attempt at a Solution

BUT W= 10.78 1/s is wrong, WHY? Thanks for any help
 
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the formula for W(omega) = (k/m)^0.5 is derived for the spring force as proportional to x. the force you have(A/x^-2) is inversely proportional to x. I have a feeling you are getting an error there.
i tried to do it... but i got a really screwed up differential equation.
 
you have the correct equation but don't forget the w=2*pi*f
 
QUOTE=toastie;2239204]you have the correct equation but don't forget the w=2*pi*f[/QUOTE]

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Hi,
I tried the 2*pi yielding 67.7 Rad/sec. That apparently was not correct according to the system that checks our answers. Thank you for the suggestion!
 
you have the angular velocity and you need to find the velocity. So if w=10.78 then f=?
 
Hi Toastie,

You are correct! I guess this was a time I overlooked the basics.

Thanks for the help,

Martin12005
 

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