Finding 2 of 3 Forces Given 1 and a Resultant

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitudes of Force B and Force C given Force A and the resultant force. The user initially struggles with vector components and equations, trying to solve for two unknowns using the resultant's x and y components. Clarifications are made regarding vector addition and the need to ensure both magnitude and direction match for the resultant. Ultimately, the user arrives at estimated values for Forces B and C, confirming their calculations align with the expected resultant. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying vector principles in solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


Force A has a magnitude of 200lb and points 35° N of W. Force B points 40° E of N. Force C points 30° W of S. The resultant of the three forces has a magnitude of 260lb and points 85° S of W.
(a) What is the magnitude of Force B?
(B) What is the magnitude of Force C?

Homework Equations


F = √(Fx2 + Fy2)
Fx = FcosΘ
Fy = FsinΘ

where

F = Force
Θ =Angle

The Attempt at a Solution


Having drawn these vectors, I've been trying to use components which could've been easier if 2 forces were given.

Resultant's X = Rx = 260cos85°
Resultant's Y = Ry = 260sin85°
Force A's X = Ax = 200cos35°
Force A's Y = Ay = 200sin35°
Bx = Bsin40°
By = Bcos40°
Cx = Csin30°
Cy = Ccos30°
And formed equations

R = A + B + C
Rx = Acos35° + Bx + Cx
Ry = Asin35° + By + Cy
With these, I don't really know because 2 are missing while having no other equations for them like A+B=1 or stuff like that that give hints. Seems like something is missing, but i don't know because others have solved it. Don't know what is next.
 
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Hello cad, welcome to PF :smile: !

You have two unknows (B and C) and two equations.
You are making life difficult for yourself by dragging in Bx, y and Cx, y.

[edit]By the way, I hope you don't mean R = A + B + C but ##\vec R = \vec A + \vec B + \vec C## :rolleyes:
 
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BvU said:
Hello cad, welcome to PF :smile: !

You have two unknows (B and C) and two equations.
You are making life difficult for yourself by dragging in Bx, y and Cx, y.
So 260 = 200 + ##\vec B + \vec C## would be the first equation and i'll have to find the other equation
By any chance, does the 2nd equation contain angles in it? Or anything?

[edit]By the way, I hope you don't mean R = A + B + C but ##\vec R = \vec A + \vec B + \vec C## :rolleyes:
Ah yes, sorry about that
 
260 and 200 are not vectors. I take it you do know about vector addition ?

You have two equations

cadcdac said:
Rx = Acos35° + Bx + Cx
Ry = Asin35° + By + Cy
with two unknowns: the magnitudes B and C.​

Perhaps I confused you with my blunt comment
BvU said:
You are making life difficult for yourself by dragging in Bx, y and Cx, y.
but the intention was that you would substitue the magnitudes of B and C
 
BvU said:
260 and 200 are not vectors. I take it you do know about vector addition ?

You have two equations

with two unknowns: the magnitudes B and C.​

Perhaps I confused you with my blunt comment
but the intention was that you would substitue the magnitudes of B and C

I see. I came up with estimated answers B = 1780.15 and C = 2006.18. I also checked and resulted to 259.99... Am I doing this right?
 
Does it match with the drawing you mentioned in post #1 ?
 
Check your angles. Do they have the same reference ?
In math and physics, east is zero angle, north ##\pi/2##
 
Never mind, it matches. Note that finding the magnitude of ##\vec A + \vec B + \vec C## is 260 is not enough to ensure ##\vec R = \vec A + \vec B + \vec C##; the direction has to be the same too.
But from you answer I expect you did the right thing and equated x and y components. WEll done.
 
Hi, I am a newbie here... can someone explain how did he got the values of B and C??
 
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cadcdac said:
I see. I came up with estimated answers B = 1780.15 and C = 2006.18. I also checked and resulted to 259.99... Am I doing this right?
how did you got B and C??
 
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