Finding all zeros of a Polynomial

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The discussion revolves around finding all zeros of the polynomial k(x) = 4x^4 - 7x^2 + 3x. Participants explore various methods for identifying the roots of this polynomial, particularly focusing on the implications of its degree and the nature of its factors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss factoring the polynomial, with some suggesting to start by factoring out x. The Rational Roots Theorem is mentioned as a potential method for finding rational zeros. There are attempts to identify possible zeros, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the validity of certain values.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their findings and questioning the correctness of identified zeros. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the Rational Roots Theorem and the process of synthetic division, but there is no explicit consensus on the final set of zeros.

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Participants note the challenge of finding all roots for a fourth-degree polynomial, especially when some roots have already been identified. There is mention of the need to recheck calculations and the possibility of missing roots, as well as the limitations of not having a graphing calculator available.

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Homework Statement



Find all zeros of k(x) = 4x^4-7x^2+3x

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I don't know if I should find the factors of 0 and 4.. Can you help me what to start out with.. I can do other ones like p(x) = 3x^3-37x^2+84x-24. But this problem k(x) = 4x^4-7x^2+3x doesn't have the last number to factor. can't factor the 0..
 
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Factor out x first.
 
k(x) = 4x^4-7x^2+3x

Start with k(x) = x(4x3 - 7x + 3)

Try to use Rational Roots Theorem to look for rational zeros. One of the zeros is obviously x=0, but you are now interested in the zeros of the degree-three polynomial.
 
Oh. I didn't know you could factor it. I got these zeros. 0, +-1, +-3, +-3/2, +-3/4.
 
ninjamonke said:
+-1, +-3, +-3/2, +-3/4.

They're not necessarily zeros (and it's impossible to have this many zeros since you're looking at a polynomial of degree 3). Now test each value and see if you obtain 0.
 
gb7nash said:
They're not necessarily zeros (and it's impossible to have this many zeros since you're looking at a polynomial of degree 3). Now test each value and see if you obtain 0.

Ok. I got x=0, x=1, and x=-3/2.
 
ninjamonke said:
Ok. I got x=0, x=1, and x=-3/2.

The function has one additional Real zero. All four zeros appear to be rational when checked quickly on a graphing calculator.
 
symbolipoint said:
The function has one additional Real zero. All four zeros appear to be rational when checked quickly on a graphing calculator.

I don't have a graphing calculator atm. Can you tell me which is the other one? I couldn't find it using the synthetic division.
 
ninjamonke said:
I don't have a graphing calculator atm. Can you tell me which is the other one? I couldn't find it using the synthetic division.

You do not really need a graphing calculator; I just used one to check "quickly" what to expect. What you should do is recheck the Rational Roots Theorem, and make sure that you found all the roots which should be tested. You may have easily missed a couple or so of them.
 
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For a fourth order equation, if you have found three of the roots, you should be able to reduce the original equation to find the final remaining root. Recheck your division.
 
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ninjamonke said:
I don't have a graphing calculator atm. Can you tell me which is the other one? I couldn't find it using the synthetic division.
There are plenty of web resources for plotting graphs. http://fooplot.com/index.php?q0=4x^4-7x^2+3x

A graph will allow you to get visually close to the value, though you still need to check to see whether the value is an exact solution.
 
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Yes, you can immediately factor out x to get [itex]x(4x^3- 7x+ 3)[/itex]. As you say, the only possible rational roots of that cubic are 1, -1, 1/4, -1/4, 1/2, -1/2, 3/4, -3/4, 3/2, -3/2. You don't need a graphing calculator to see that [itex]4(1^3)- 7(1)+ 3= 0[/itex]!

Dividing [itex]4x^3- 7x+ 3[/itex] by x- 1 you get [itex]4x^2+ 4x- 3[/itex]. So you have a [itex]4x^4- 7x^2+ 3x= x(x- 1)(4x^2+ 4x- 3)[/itex]. That last quadratic is easy to factor- although you could also use the quadratic formula if it weren't.
 

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