Finding Angle θ between 300-lb Force and Line OC

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle θ between a 300-lb force and the line OC in a three-dimensional coordinate system. Initially, the user attempted to find the angle using vectors AB and OA but realized the need to include the force in the calculations. After several iterations and corrections, the correct vectors were established, leading to the calculation of the angle with OC. Ultimately, the correct angle was found to be 60.42°, emphasizing the importance of attention to detail in solving such problems. The conversation highlights common pitfalls in vector calculations and the collaborative effort to arrive at the correct solution.
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Homework Statement



Determine the angle θ between the 300-lb force and the line OC.

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Homework Equations



P°Q = PQcos(θ)



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I tried finding the vectors AB and OA as well as their magnitudes first
O is the origin
A = (9,0,0)
B = (0, 16, 6)
C =(9, 16, 0)

AB = <0-9, 16-0, 6-0>
AB = <-9, 16, 6>

|AB| = sqrt((-92) + 162 + 62)
|AB| = 19.31

OA = <9-0, 0-0, 0-0>
OA = <9, 0, 0>

|OA| = 9

AB°OA = |AB||OA| cos(θ)

<-9, 16, 6>°<9, 0, 0> = (19.31)(9)cos(θ)

arccos(-81/173.79)

θ = 117.78

It says this answer is not correct and I realize that I haven't included the 300-lb force, but how would I take that force into account?
 

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Looks like you've found the angle of AB with line OA ... but it asks for the angle with OC.
 
...Excellent observation...it's been a long day.

So I ran the calculations again, this time with OC. and I got an angle of 34.046 which is still wrong. :/
 
I ran the calculations, for the angle with OC using the given info and got a larger angle than yours, double check your calculations.
 
So I checked my calculations and still got 34.056°. My calculations are as follows:

O is the origin
A = (9,0,0)
B = (0, 16, 6)
C =(9, 16, 0)

AB = <0-9, 16-0, 6-0>
AB = <-9, 16, 6>

|AB| = sqrt((-92) + 162 + 62)
|AB| = 19.31

OC = <9-9, 16-0, 0-0>
OC = <0, 16, 0>

|OC| = 16

AB°OC = |AB||OC| cos(θ)

<-9, 16, 6>°<0, 16, 0> = (19.31)(16)cos(θ)

θ = arccos(256/308.96)

θ = 34.046
 
Shouldn't OC = <9,16,0> ?
 
Yes, you are correct. I think I've been at this too long :/.

My calculations are as follows

A = (9, 0, 00
B = (0, 16, 6)
C = (9, 16, 0)

AB = <0-9, 16-0, 6-0>
AB = <-9, 16, 6>

|AB| = sqrt((-9)^2 + 16^2 + 6^2)
|AB| = 19.31 kN

OC = <9-0, 16-0, 0-0>
OC = < 9, 16, 0>

|OC| = sqrt(9^2 + 16^2)
|OC| = 18.358 kN

AB°OC = |AB||OC|cos(θ)

<-9, 16, 6>°<9, 16, 0> = (19.31)(18.358) cos(θ)

θ = arccos(175/354.47)
θ = 60.42°

This answer is correct. Thanks for all your help.
 
There's been a bunch of people struggling through these and it is usually just down to attention to detail. It gets everybody like that - you'll get used to it.
 
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