Finding Cylindrical Points $(r, \theta, z)$ in Range

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This discussion focuses on identifying cylindrical points $(r, \theta, z)$ within the specified ranges of $\theta \in [0,\pi]$ and $z \in [-1,1]$ for the cylinder defined by $x^2+y^2=1$. The cylindrical coordinates are expressed as $(x,y,z) = (r \cos{\theta}, r \sin{\theta}, z)$. The key points derived from the discussion include $(1,0,-1)$, $(1,\pi/2,-1)$, $(1,\pi,-1)$, and others, which illustrate the section of the cylinder being analyzed. The geometric implications of these coordinates are emphasized, highlighting the necessity of understanding cylindrical coordinates for effective application.

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  • Understanding of cylindrical coordinates
  • Familiarity with the equation of a cylinder, specifically $x^2+y^2=1$
  • Basic knowledge of trigonometric functions, particularly cosine and sine
  • Ability to interpret geometric representations of mathematical concepts
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  • Study the implications of varying $\theta$ and $z$ in cylindrical coordinates
  • Investigate the relationship between Cartesian and cylindrical coordinate systems
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Hello! (Wave)

How can we find what section of the cylinder $x^2+y^2=1$ corresponds to cylindrical points $(1,\theta,z)$ in the range $\theta$ in $[0,\pi]$ and $z$ in $[ -1,1]$ ?

We have that the cylindrical points are of the form $(r, \theta, z)$ where the following relations hold:

$$x=r \cos{\theta} \\ y=r \sin{\theta} \\ z=z$$

But we cannot use the above relations to use the fact that $\theta \in [0,\pi]$ and $z \in [ -1,1]$, can we? (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
But we cannot use the above relations to use the fact that $\theta \in [0,\pi]$ and $z \in [ -1,1]$, can we?
Why can't we consider these restrictions with the equations above?

Find the points with coordinates $(1,0,-1),(1,\pi/2,-1),(1,\pi,-1),(1,0,0),(1,\pi/2,0),(1,\pi,0),(1,0,1),(1,\pi/2,1),(1,\pi,1)$. This should give you the idea of what part of the cylinder is considered.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Why can't we consider these restrictions with the equations above?

Find the points with coordinates $(1,0,-1),(1,\pi/2,-1),(1,\pi,-1),(1,0,0),(1,\pi/2,0),(1,\pi,0),(1,0,1),(1,\pi/2,1),(1,\pi,1)$. This should give you the idea of what part of the cylinder is considered.

$(x,y,z)$ gets respectively the following values:

$$(1,0,-1) \\ (0,1,-1) \\ (-1,0,-1) \\ (1,0,0) \\ (0,1,0) \\ (-1,0,0) \\ (1,0,1) \\ (0,1,1) \\ (-1,0,1)$$

What do we get from that?
 
If you plot these points on top of the cylinder, it should give you the idea of what part of the cylinder is considered. You can also consider points where the middle coordinate is $\pi/4$ and $3\pi/4$ in addition to $\pi/2$. But of course it helps to know the geometric meaning of cylindrical coordinates.

In general, I think that one should not ask a question about applying a concept when one does not know the definition of the concept. One should ask for help with the definition instead (if it is hard to find or understand).
 

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