Finding distance and angle of crash between plane and rocket

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The discussion focuses on calculating the distance and angle at which a crashed unmanned spy plane and rocket hit the ground after colliding. The spy plane is traveling north at 450 m/s and the rocket east at 725 m/s, with the plane at an altitude of 2700 meters. The initial attempt at solving the problem involved using the wrong approach, leading to an incorrect distance of 2.58 km instead of the expected 12.2 km. The correct method involves calculating the time it takes for the plane to fall 2700 meters under gravity, which is then multiplied by the horizontal velocity to find the distance. The key takeaway is that the vertical motion is independent of horizontal motion, simplifying the calculations to focus on gravity's effect on the plane's descent.
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Homework Statement


In a military test, a 575 unmanned spy plane is traveling north at an altitude of 2700 and a speed of 450 . It is intercepted by a 1280 rocket traveling east at 725 .

If the rocket and the spy plane become enmeshed in a tangled mess, where, relative to the point of impact, do they hit the ground? Give the direction as an angle east of north.


Homework Equations


F = ma
p = sqrt((m_1v_1)^2+(m_2v_2)^2)
vinitial = p/sum of m
sf = si + vi*t +1/2a*t^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I found Vinital by doing v = p/m, and got 519.352 m/s.

then i plugged that value into yf = yi + vi*t + 1/2a*t^2, and using yf = -2700.

then i used the quadratic formula to solve for t, and using the negative root (because of logistics) and ended up with t = 4.966 seconds.
then plugged that into xf = xi + vi*t, and ended up with 2.58 km.
the answer should be 12.2 km. so, I'm not sure what I am doing incorrectly.
 
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jheld said:

Homework Statement


In a military test, a 575 unmanned spy plane is traveling north at an altitude of 2700 and a speed of 450 . It is intercepted by a 1280 rocket traveling east at 725 .

If the rocket and the spy plane become enmeshed in a tangled mess, where, relative to the point of impact, do they hit the ground? Give the direction as an angle east of north.


Homework Equations


F = ma
p = sqrt((m_1v_1)^2+(m_2v_2)^2)
vinitial = p/sum of m
sf = si + vi*t +1/2a*t^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I found Vinital by doing v = p/m, and got 519.352 m/s.

then i plugged that value into yf = yi + vi*t + 1/2a*t^2, and using yf = -2700.

then i used the quadratic formula to solve for t, and using the negative root (because of logistics) and ended up with t = 4.966 seconds.
then plugged that into xf = xi + vi*t, and ended up with 2.58 km.
the answer should be 12.2 km. so, I'm not sure what I am doing incorrectly.


There is no quadratic. There is merely the time for it to fall from 2700 m

2700 = 1/2*(9.8)*t2

It's this time times your horizontal velocity that determines how far away.
 
Okay, I understand that in doing this, you get the 12.2 km, but isn't the equation:
yfinal = yinital + vinitial*t + 1/2*a*t^2?
so why cut off part of the equation?

thanks for the help
 
jheld said:
Okay, I understand that in doing this, you get the 12.2 km, but isn't the equation:
yfinal = yinital + vinitial*t + 1/2*a*t^2?
so why cut off part of the equation?

thanks for the help

Strictly speaking the the plane and missile are in a horizontal x,y plane. Whatever velocity they have is not in the z-axis (up/down). Since there are no components of velocity from the crash in the z direction your initial z-velocity is 0, but it is the only component subject to gravity.

Hence the equation devolves into the simple z = 1/2*g*t2
 
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