Finding eigenvectors for diagonalization

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The discussion revolves around finding eigenvectors for the matrix A = \(\begin{bmatrix} -6 & 0.25 \\ 7 & -3 \end{bmatrix}\) in order to diagonalize it. Participants are attempting to determine an invertible matrix S and a diagonal matrix D such that \(S^{-1}AS = D\).

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations. There are attempts to derive eigenvalues using characteristic equations and to substitute these values back into the matrix to find corresponding eigenvectors. Questions arise regarding the correctness of eigenspace calculations and the methods used to derive eigenvectors from the eigenvalues.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their results. Some guidance has been provided regarding the setup of equations for finding eigenvectors, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final results.

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Participants mention using a matrix calculator for assistance, indicating potential discrepancies in their manual calculations. There is also a concern about the accuracy of the eigenvectors derived from the calculator, suggesting that assumptions or methods may need to be revisited.

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Homework Statement


Let [tex]A = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -6 & 0.25 \\ 7 & -3 \end{array} \right][/tex]

Find an invertible S and a diagonal D such that [tex]S^{-1}AS=D[/tex]

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


So first I need to get eigenvalues so I can get the eigenvectors which will give me the invertible S (or so I believe).

Anyways, here is my work so far:

[tex]A = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -6 & 0.25 \\ 7 & -3 \end{array} \right] = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} \lambda+6 & -0.25 \\ -7 & \lambda+3 \end{array} \right][/tex]

[tex] (\lambda+6)(\lambda+3)-1.75[/tex]

[tex] \lambda^2+3\lamda+6\lambda+18-1.75[/tex]

[tex]\lambda^2+9\lambda+16.25[/tex]

Using quadratic equation or factoring, the roots are:

[tex]\lambda=-2.5[/tex]

[tex]\lambda=-6.5[/tex]

From here, subbing lambda in, I get:

[tex] \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -2.5+6 & -0.25 \\ -7 & -2.5+3 \end{array} \right] \left[ \begin{array}{cc} X_1 \\ X_2 \\ \end{array} \right][/tex]

[tex] \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -6.5+6 & -0.25 \\ -7 & -6.5+3 \end{array} \right] \left[ \begin{array}{cc} X_1 \\ X_2 \end{array} \right][/tex]

Solving for these systems I get:

[tex] E_{-2.5} = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 \end{array} \right][/tex]

[tex] E_{-6.5} = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0.5 \\ 0 & 0 \end{array} \right][/tex]

From here, how do I get the eigenvectors? I think I'm close (if my work is correct so far)
 
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I guess my eigenspace is probably wrong, can someone help me figure that out? If I get that, I know how to get the diagonal.

Thanks.
 
So I used a matrix calculator to get the vectors (since I can't get them) and it gave me 1, -2 for [itex]\lambda[/itex] of -6.25, and -2, 14 for [itex]\lambda[/itex] of-2.5

So with this, the eigenspace should be

[tex] S = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 1 \\ -2 & 14 \end{array} \right][/tex]

And when I calculate it out as [itex]S^{-1}AS = D[/itex]

[tex] D = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -104 & 0 \\ 0 & -40 \end{array} \right][/tex]

Which seems like it works since it's now diagonal, but the answer is wrong for some reason. I've tried switching the signs and it's still wrong. Really not sure what I'm doing wrong. This is the last question I have for practice and this is getting frustrating. I'm starting to think maybe there's an error with the program.
 
iamsmooth said:

Homework Statement


Let [tex]A = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -6 & 0.25 \\ 7 & -3 \end{array} \right][/tex]

Find an invertible S and a diagonal D such that [tex]S^{-1}AS=D[/tex]


Homework Equations


...


The Attempt at a Solution


So first I need to get eigenvalues so I can get the eigenvectors which will give me the invertible S (or so I believe).

Anyways, here is my work so far:

[tex]A = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -6 & 0.25 \\ 7 & -3 \end{array} \right] = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} \lambda+6 & -0.25 \\ -7 & \lambda+3 \end{array} \right][/tex]

[tex] (\lambda+6)(\lambda+3)-1.75[/tex]

[tex] \lambda^2+3\lamda+6\lambda+18-1.75[/tex]

[tex]\lambda^2+9\lambda+16.25[/tex]

Using quadratic equation or factoring, the roots are:

[tex]\lambda=-2.5[/tex]

[tex]\lambda=-6.5[/tex]

From here, subbing lambda in, I get:

[tex] \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -2.5+6 & -0.25 \\ -7 & -2.5+3 \end{array} \right] \left[ \begin{array}{cc} X_1 \\ X_2 \\ \end{array} \right][/tex]

[tex] \left[ \begin{array}{cc} -6.5+6 & -0.25 \\ -7 & -6.5+3 \end{array} \right] \left[ \begin{array}{cc} X_1 \\ X_2 \end{array} \right][/tex]

Solving for these systems I get:

[tex] E_{-2.5} = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 \end{array} \right][/tex]

[tex] E_{-6.5} = \left[ \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0.5 \\ 0 & 0 \end{array} \right][/tex]

From here, how do I get the eigenvectors? I think I'm close (if my work is correct so far)
Your error is in subtracting the two different eigenvalues from the same matrix. To find an eigenvalue corresponding to x= -2.5 Look at the equation
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}-6 & .25 \\ 7 & -3\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y \end{bmatrix}= -2.5\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
or, equivalently
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}6+ 2.5 & -.25 \\ -7 & 3+ 2.5\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y\end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 0\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
That reduces to the two equations 6x- 2.5y= 0 and -7x+ 2.5y= 0 which both reduce to y= 34x. Any eigenvector, corresponding to eigenvalue -2.5, must be of the form
[tex]x\begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 34\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
and you can take x to be 1, say, to get a specific eigenvalue, or [itex]1/\sqrt{34^2+ 1}[/itex] for a unit eigenvalue.

Similarly, to find an eigenvector corresponding to eigenvalue -6.5, solve
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}-6 & .25 \\ 7 & -3\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y\end{bmatrix}= -6.5\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y \end{bmatrix}[/tex]
or, equivalently,
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}-6+6.5 & .25 \\ 7 & -3+ 6.5\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y\end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix} 0.5 & .25\\ 7 & 3.5 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}[/tex]
 
HallsofIvy said:
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}6+ 2.5 & -.25 \\ -7 & 3+ 2.5\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y\end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 0\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
That reduces to the two equations 6x- 2.5y= 0 and -7x+ 2.5y= 0 which both reduce to y= 34x. Any eigenvector, corresponding to eigenvalue -2.5, must be of the form
[tex]x\begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 34\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
and you can take x to be 1, say, to get a specific eigenvalue, or [itex]1/\sqrt{34^2+ 1}[/itex] for a unit eigenvalue.

I don't understand where you get the two equations from that matrix. Even if I accept it, I don't understand how it reduces to y=34x.
 

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