Finding equation with zeroes and max value

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a parabola given its zeroes at 5/2 and -3/2, and an optimal value of 4. Participants are exploring the implications of the optimal value in relation to the vertex of the parabola.

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  • Participants discuss the method of determining the vertex from the given zeroes and how to incorporate the optimal value into the equation. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the optimal value and its relation to the vertex.

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There is ongoing exploration of the calculations involved in deriving the equation. Some participants have provided insights into potential errors in simplification and the interpretation of the optimal value. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

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Participants note the importance of correctly simplifying expressions and the potential for confusion regarding the maximum or minimum nature of the optimal value. There is also mention of an answer sheet that presents a different equation, prompting further discussion on the derivation process.

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Hi all, the full question is:
A parabola has zeroes at 5/2 and -3/2 and has an optimal value of 4. Determine equation of the parabola in factored form.

So I started out with 4 as my y-value on my vertex then took the zeroes(5/2 and -3/2), added them and divided by 2 to get the x-axis for the x-value in the vertex.
Subbed in (.5,4) into factored form with the zeroes,
y=a(x-r)(x-s)
4=a(.5-5/2)(.5-(-3/2)
4=a(-2)(2)
4/-4=a
-1=a
So the equation should be y=-1(x-5/2)(x-(-3/2) or y=-1(2x-5)(2x+3)
The answer sheet says its y=-1/4(2x-5)(2x+3)
I have similar numbers but don't know where I went wrong. Any help is appreciated
 
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Drake M said:
Hi all, the full question is:
A parabola has zeroes at 5/2 and -3/2 and has an optimal value of 4. Determine equation of the parabola in factored form.

So I started out with 4 as my y-value on my vertex then took the zeroes(5/2 and -3/2), added them and divided by 2 to get the x-axis for the x-value in the vertex.
Subbed in (.5,4) into factored form with the zeroes,
y=a(x-r)(x-s)
4=a(.5-5/2)(.5-(-3/2)
4=a(-2)(2)
4/-4=a
-1=a
So the equation should be y=-1(x-5/2)(x-(-3/2) or y=-1(2x-5)(2x+3)
The answer sheet says its y=-1/4(2x-5)(2x+3)
I have similar numbers but don't know where I went wrong. Any help is appreciated
How did your second equation derive? What does an optimal value of 4 really mean?
 
isnt optimal value max value of y which would be the vertex
 
Drake M said:
isn't optimal value max value of y which would be the vertex
I suppose so, which would follow from 4 being the maximum value. The other common possibility being that it's a minimum, but then of course that would imply that there are no x-intercepts.
 
Drake M said:
isnt optimal value max value of y which would be the vertex
It may be a maximum, or a minimum. Anyway, how do you usually find it and where? All you know is the y value of 4 I guess.

Where does this line come from?
4=a(.5-5/2)(.5-(-3/2)
But maybe you are using another method than me. However, to find your deviation from the given result I need to know better what you are trying to do.

EDIT: Ok, I got it now. Everything is fine but the way you got rid of the factor 1/2 in the parenthesis. You multiplied twice by two and didn't correct it outside.
 
Thanks for the help guys, a buddy of mine solved it and showed me how. I wasnt simplifying x-5/2 into 2x-5 and x--3/2 into 2x+5 before is subbed in my vertex values and that's where I went wrong
 
Drake M said:
So the equation should be y=-1(x-5/2)(x-(-3/2) or y=-1(2x-5)(2x+3)
The answer sheet says its y=-1/4(2x-5)(2x+3)
I have similar numbers but don't know where I went wrong. Any help is appreciated
Those answers are equivalent. except for the part crossed out
 

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