Finding Extrema for (x-1)x^(2/3)

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The discussion revolves around finding the extrema of the function (x-1)x^(2/3). Participants are exploring the process of determining critical numbers through the derivative and evaluating these points within a specified interval.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss finding the derivative and setting it to zero to identify critical points. There is uncertainty about the implications of undefined values and the nature of critical points, particularly regarding x=0. Questions arise about the correct identification of roots and whether additional critical points should be considered.

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Participants have identified critical numbers, including 0 and 2/5, and are clarifying the inclusion of endpoints in the context of a closed interval. There is an ongoing exploration of how to evaluate extrema at these points.

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The interval under consideration is [0,1], which influences the identification of critical numbers and the evaluation of extrema.

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i have to find the extrema for (x-1)x^(2/3)
so i found the derivative: (5x/3)^2/3 - 2/(3x^1/3)
now i have to find the critical numbers by putting the derivative equal to zero and solving for x...but i don't know how to do it.
are there even any roots?
 
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So you have
[tex]\left(\frac{5x}{3}\right)^{2/3} - \frac{2}{3x^{1/3}}= 0[/itex]<br /> If x= 0 then the last fraction is undefined (so x= 0 <b>is</b> a critical point), if not we can multiply through by [itex]3x^{1/3}[/itex]. What does that give you?[/tex]
 
if you plug in zero though, it becomes undefined, not 0...so how can that be a critical point? anddo you mean taking (5x-2)/(3x^1/3)
and since the bottom doesn't matter, jst find the zero of the top part (5x-2) and get 2/5?
would that be correct?
and the only root?
 
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menal said:
if you plug in zero though, it becomes undefined, not 0...so how can that be a critical point? and do you mean taking (5x-2)/(3x^1/3)
and since the bottom doesn't matter, just find the zero of the top part (5x-2) and get 2/5?
would that be correct?
and the only root?
Review the definition of a critical number when finding extrema.
 
oh! lol sorry. i ever knew that! so 0 is a critical number along with 2/5. that would be it?
 
menal said:
oh! lol sorry. i ever knew that! so 0 is a critical number along with 2/5. that would be it?
How did you get 2/5?
 
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"you mean taking (5x-2)/(3x^1/3)
and since the bottom doesn't matter, just find the zero of the top part (5x-2) and get 2/5"
 
menal said:
"you mean taking (5x-2)/(3x^1/3)
and since the bottom doesn't matter, just find the zero of the top part (5x-2) and get 2/5"
Right. Now, use the critical numbers to find the extrema.
 
yup! the interval given was (0,1)
so i plugged in 0,1 and 2/5 into the first equation:(x-1)x^(2/3)
and got 0,0 and -0.32
so my extreme values would be -0.32 as the absolute minimum and 0 as the absolute max.
 
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Was the interval (0,1), or was it [0,1] ?

Is x = 0 in your interval?
 
  • #11
[0,1]
 
  • #12
Look at both ends of the interval.
 
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you mean -2/5 would be one too?
 
  • #14
Of course. But when looking for extrema on a closed interval, you need to check each end of the interval for a possible extremum.
 
  • #15
so your sayin that -2/5 and 2/5 and then 7/5 (1 + 2/5) and 3/5 (1 - 2/5) would all be critical numbers.
 
  • #16
No.

If you're looking for extrema on the interval [0,1], the end points of the interval are also critical numbers. The end points are, x=0 (already a critical number) and x=1.

-2/5 is not in the interval [0,1] and not a critical number.
 
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yes, i have included 0 and 1 and 2/5 as my critical numbers already. I was just confused because i thought u were saying that i had to add/subtract the crticial number i got (2/5) from my intervals (0 and 1). But no, i think i get it now. the crticial numbers will be 0,1 and 2/5.
 
  • #18
Yes. 0, 2/5, and 1 .
 

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