Finding Irms for rectified half wave

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To calculate the RMS current for a rectified half wave with a peak of 10A lasting 4.0ms followed by a flat line for another 4.0ms, the correct method involves understanding the periodic function's RMS formula. The total period is 8ms, and the RMS value for the entire waveform is derived from integrating the squared function over this period. The RMS current is not simply 5A; instead, it is calculated as 3.535A when considering the heating effect of the current being off for half the time. The confusion arises from misapplying the RMS formula, where dividing by 1.414 instead of multiplying by 0.707 clarifies the calculation. The final RMS value reflects the effective heating capability of the waveform.
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I'm given a rectified half wave, first half of sine wave (lasts 4.0ms) has peak of 10A, followed by a flat line for another 4.0ms



how am i supposed to calculate the Irms? I can't apply Irms= Ipeak/ .707 so what should i do?



could someone explain why it turns out as 5.0A? 10A/2? if so, why?
 
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Welcome to PF.

The rms of a periodic function is given by:

<br /> f_{rms} = \sqrt {{\textstyle{1 \over T}}\int\limits_0^T {(f(t))^2 } dt} <br />
where T is the period. Here, <br /> f(t) = (\sin \omega t + 0)<br />.

Your T is 8 ms. Try it now.
 
If you had a sinewave with a peak current of 10 A the RMS value would be 0.707 times 10 A or 7.07 amps.
You could replace that with a DC current of 7.07 amps and it would work the same at heating something.

Now, look at that DC current and every 8 mS, turn it off for 4 mS and then back on again for 4 mS. 50% on 50% off. What would be the RMS current then?
 
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thx a lot vk6kro! so it would be like [(10/.707)^2*(4ms) + (0)]^ 1/2 which works out to be 5A! nice simple explanation, couldn't understand the complex equation given in the previous reply :( didn't noe what was omega ( 2 pi / 8ms ? ) but thanks guys
 
No.

The answer isn't 5 amps, sorry. That is wrong.

Turning a 7.07 amp current off for 50 % of the time gives you half the 7.07 amps heating ability.
So, 3.535 amps.

You multiply the peak value by .707 to get RMS but you were showing a divide, I think. You can divide by 1.414 instead if you like. Gives the same result.
 
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