Finding Isomorphisms for Group G x Z & G x G

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The discussion revolves around finding isomorphisms for the group G, which consists of infinite sequences of integers, specifically exploring the relationships between G x Z and G, as well as G x G and G.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to identify functions that could serve as isomorphisms for the groups in question, expressing challenges with ensuring injectivity. Some participants suggest leveraging known properties of Abelian groups and infinite products to explore potential isomorphisms.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, considering different mathematical properties and relationships. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of isomorphisms, with some guidance provided regarding the arithmetic of sets and group properties.

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There is a mention of the original poster's uncertainty about how to apply known isomorphisms and properties of infinite groups to their specific problem. The discussion reflects a focus on the injective property as a critical factor for establishing isomorphisms.

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I have the group G whose elements are infinite sequences of integers (a1, a2, ...). These sequences combine termwise as such:
(a1, a2,...)(b1, b2,...) = (a1+b2, a2+b2,...)

I would like to find an isomorphism from G x Z (the direct product of G and the integers) to G as well as an isomorphism from G x G to G.

So far, I have found several homomorphisms for both of these but all of them lack the injective property so fail to be isomorphisms. What sorts of functions can I construct that are isomorphisms to G for these two groups?

Thanks.
 
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In the arithmetic of Abelian groups, your group G is isomorphic to the infinite Cartesian product ZN... (actually, it's probably equal to, not just isomorphic to, but that doesn't matter)
 
Okay. I see that, but I guess I'm not sure how to use that fact to show that G x Z is isomorphic to G. Should I try to show that G x Z is also isomorphic to the infinite direct product?
 
That would work. Calculations like this are one of the reasons we learn how to do arithmetic with sets!

(I'm assuming you know the appropriate arithmetic rules, such as [itex](A \times B)^C \cong A^C \times B^C[/itex])
 
Yes, thanks very much.
 

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