Finding poles of complex functions

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The discussion revolves around finding the poles of a complex function, specifically focusing on the function f(z) and its poles, which are related to the roots of complex numbers. Participants explore methods for calculating these poles, including the use of polar coordinates and Argand diagrams.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is attempting to calculate poles of the function f(z) and has identified z=±√i as potential solutions, but is struggling to express this in polar form.
  • Another participant points out that the real part of (1+i)² is 0, suggesting that the square root of an imaginary number can have a nonzero real part, which may be relevant to the original problem.
  • A further contribution notes that poles occur when the denominator is zero, specifically referencing the equation z⁴ - e^{iπ} = 0.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of using polar form to find square roots of complex numbers, demonstrating how to convert i into polar form and find its square roots.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods for finding poles and roots of complex numbers, but there is no consensus on the best approach or resolution of the original problem. Multiple competing views and techniques remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the representation of complex numbers in polar form and the interpretation of roots, which may not be universally agreed upon. There are also unresolved steps in the calculations presented.

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I am trying to calculate a pole of f(z)=http://www4b.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP86721gicihdh283d613000033ch4ae4eh37cbd4?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=35&w=44.&h=40. . The answer in the textbook is:

Simple pole at http://www4f.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP2485217c56eb3b13h612000056di60dga07378cd?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=14&w=52.&h=26. and a simple pole at http://www4f.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP2292204iia97b59e96db00001591c4be13e5ge82?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=19&w=66.&h=24.

Trying to get to the same solution:

So far I have that z=±√ i

I need to find this pole in terms of z=re^iθ so I’m trying to plot this on an argand diagram but I don’t know how.

Since z=x+iy, I assumed that the real part is 0 and the imaginary part is ±1 but plotting this gives me
θ/2 and not over 4 which is required.
 
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Complex numbers are kind of funny. What is the real part of ##(1+i)^2##?
 
the real part would be 0? Since (1+I)^2= 1+2i+i^2= 0+2i so the real part is 0?
 
Kitten said:
the real part would be 0? Since (1+I)^2= 1+2i+i^2= 0+2i so the real part is 0?

Correct. So the square root of an imaginary number can have a nonzero real part. Can you figure out any way to use this in your problem?
 
Note that -1=e^{i\pi}

So poles occur when the denominator is zero: z^{4}-e^{i\pi}=0
 
You say that you have z= \pm\sqrt{i}. Surely you know that the simplest way to find square roots (or other roots) or complex numbers is to put them in polar form- if z= re^{i\theta}, then \sqrt{z}= \sqrt{r}e^{i\theta/2}? "i" has absolute value 1 and argument \pi/2 so that i=.(1)e^{i\pi/2}. So the square root of i is \sqrt{1}e^{i\pi/4}= e^{i\pi/4}= cos(\pi/4)+ i sin(\pi/4)= \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+ i). Of course, we can always add 2\pi to the argument without changing the number, e^{i\pi/2}= e^{i\pi/2+ 2i\pi}= e^{3i\pi/2}, and so another square root is e^{i3\pi/4}= cos(3\pi/4)+ i sin(3\pi/4)= -\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}(1+ i)
 
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