Finding Spring with kinetic friction involved

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The discussion revolves around calculating the compression of a spring when a block slides on a rough surface with kinetic friction. The user successfully determined the spring compression on a frictionless surface to be 0.59m using energy conservation principles. For the rough surface scenario, they are unsure how to incorporate the distance 'd' in their calculations, particularly when applying the work done by friction. Other participants clarify that the force of friction should be calculated using the coefficient of kinetic friction, and suggest setting up an energy equation to solve for the unknown distance 'd'. The focus remains on correctly applying energy concepts to include the effects of friction in the spring compression calculation.
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Hello everyone, i have the following two part prompt and I am having a difficult time with the second part. Here is first part of the prompt,

A block of mass 0.528 kg slides with uniform velocity of 4.15 m/s on a horizontal frictionless surface. At some point, it strikes a horizontal spring in equilibrium. If the spring constant is k = 25.5 N/m, by how much will the spring be compressed by the time the block comes to rest?

I found the spring compression to be 0.59m using Energy(initial)+Work(non conserved)= Energy(Final)

The second part is as follows,

What is the amount of compression if the surface is rough under the spring, with coefficient of kinetic friction µk = 0.411?

From what i learned in class i am supposed to stick to the concept used above, so I plugged in Kinetic friction for work as '-0.411d'. My professor made it known that d stood for the distance but I'm not sure where I can pull that information.

I tried using 0.59 since that 'was' the distance traveled before friction was introduced but it didn't work out.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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mtsac said:
From what i learned in class i am supposed to stick to the concept used above, so I plugged in Kinetic friction for work as '-0.411d'.
Your expression for the work done by friction is incorrect. Given the coefficient of friction, what's the force of friction?
My professor made it known that d stood for the distance but I'm not sure where I can pull that information.
You're going to solve for the distance, so set up an energy equation with d as the unknown.
 
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