Finding the bound charge in a dielectric

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The problem involves a parallel plate capacitor filled with a dielectric material whose dielectric constant varies linearly from 1 to 2 across the gap between the plates. The task is to find the bound charge and verify that the total bound charge is zero.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevant equations and approaches to finding capacitance and bound charge, with some expressing confusion about the setup and the equations to use. There is mention of "slicing" the capacitor to analyze it, with differing opinions on the orientation of the slices.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with various interpretations being discussed. Some participants have offered guidance on using the auxiliary field and the relationship between the electric displacement field and the bound charge, while others are questioning their understanding of the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the interpretation of the dielectric constant's variation and the orientation of the slices used for analysis. There is acknowledgment of a misunderstanding about the problem's description, which may have contributed to initial confusion.

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Homework Statement



The space between the plates of a parallel plate capacitor is filled with a dielectric material whose dielectric constant $\epsilon_r$ varies linearly from 1 at the bottom plate (x=0) to 2 at the top of the plate (x=d). The capacitor is connected to a battery of voltage V. Find all the bound charge, and check that the total is zero.

Homework Equations



$C=\frac{Q}{V}$
$C=\frac{A\espilon_0}{d}$
$D=\epsilon E$
$\sigma_b=P\cdot\hat{n}$
$\rho_b=-\nabla \cdot P$

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure if those are the relevant equations, I am really confused about what to do for this problem. What I have tried, with no success is to find the capacitance by assuming the plates are a distance L apart and have area A. First I find $\epsilon_r$ as a function of x, and it is $\epsilon_r = (\frac{x}{d}+1)$ and then saying $C=\int_0d (\frac{x}{d}+1)\frac{\epsilon_0A}{L}dx=\frac{3\epsilon_0 Ad}{2L}$ And since $C=\frac{Q}{V}$ then the free charge is $Q=\frac{3\epsilon_0 AdV}{2L}$. I don't really know where to go from here, or even if what I have done so far is how I want to approach it. I also thought about "slicing" the capacitor horizontally so that each little slice looked like a capacitor with a linear dielectric inside, so that I could use $P=\epsilon_0(\epsilon_r-1)E$. But, I again, don't know where I would go from there. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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How do I delete a post? I thought latex worked here and I think it would be easier just to start this over?
 
Hi there!

We have a few relevant equations here indeed. So first off we want to focus on the auxiliary field ##\vec{D}## because we can use it to treat this just like any other parallel plate capacitor problem meaning that ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{D} = \rho_f\Rightarrow \oint \vec{D}\cdot d\vec{A} = Q_f## combined with the obvious symmetry of the system (assuming we can ignore edge effects) will straightforwardly give us ##\vec{D}##. Furthermore we know that ##\vec{D} = \epsilon\vec{E}## and ## \vec{D} = \epsilon_{0}\vec{E} + \vec{P}## as well as ##\rho_{b} = -\vec{\nabla}\cdot \vec{P}## so you just have to piece everything together.
 
xophergrunge said:

Homework Statement



The space between the plates of a parallel plate capacitor is filled with a dielectric material whose dielectric constant ##\epsilon_r## varies linearly from 1 at the bottom plate (x=0) to 2 at the top of the plate (x=d). The capacitor is connected to a battery of voltage V. Find all the bound charge, and check that the total is zero.

Homework Equations



##C=\frac{Q}{V}##

##C=\frac{A\epsilon_0}{d}##

##D=\epsilon E##

##\sigma_b=P\cdot\hat{n}##

##\rho_b=-\nabla \cdot P##

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure if those are the relevant equations, I am really confused about what to do for this problem. What I have tried, with no success is to find the capacitance by assuming the plates are a distance L apart and have area A. First I find ##\epsilon_r## as a function of x, and it is ##\epsilon_r = (\frac{x}{d}+1)## and then saying ##C=\int_0^d (\frac{x}{d}+1)\frac{\epsilon_0A}{L}dx=\frac{3\epsilon_0 Ad}{2L}## And since ##C=\frac{Q}{V}## then the free charge is ##Q=\frac{3\epsilon_0 AdV}{2L}##. I don't really know where to go from here, or even if what I have done so far is how I want to approach it. I also thought about "slicing" the capacitor horizontally so that each little slice looked like a capacitor with a linear dielectric inside, so that I could use ##P=\epsilon_0(\epsilon_r-1)E##. But, I again, don't know where I would go from there. Any help would be appreciated.
I made your post readable. The slicing is a good idea, but the slices are capacitors connected in series, and they do not add. Use that the normal component of D is the same at every x, and the potential difference of the slice capacitors is dU = Edx=(D/ε) dx. Get the total voltage across the capacitor by integrating E.

ehild
 
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ehild

I was actually thinking of slicing perpendicularly to the plates, so that the dielectric in each slice had the same ε_{r}, and that way the slice capacitors would be connected in parallel.
 
The dielectric constant varies perpendicularly to the plates from 1 at x=0 (bottom plate) to 2 at x=d (top plate). At a given x, ε is constant on the plane parallel with the plates. You have to slice the capacitor parallel to its plates.

ehild
 
No, you are misreading the question. The ε is constant in the plane perpendicular to the plates. The x-axis is running along the plate.
 
I am sorry. I was misreading the question. I was thinking "bottom OF THE plate" and "top OF THE plate." Your interpretation of it is correct, it is the "bottom plate" and "top plate."

Thanks. This may have been where all my confusion came from. I'll have to start fresh on it.
 
Yeah, I realized right after I posted, sorry. I feel like an idiot, I wasted a lot of time attempting the wrong problem.
 
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No worries. Start it again. It is simpler than the "vertical" slicing.

ehild
 
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ehild,

I was looking at this problem again, and your suggestion. I don't understand how finding the voltage the way you describe helps me find bound charge. Could you please elaborate?
 

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