Finding the bound charge in a dielectric ATTEMPT 2

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The problem involves a parallel plate capacitor filled with a dielectric material whose dielectric constant varies linearly. Participants are tasked with finding the bound charge and ensuring that the total is zero, while considering the implications of the dielectric properties and charge distributions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the expression for the dielectric constant and its implications for bound charge calculations. There are attempts to derive expressions for bound surface and volume charge, with some questioning the correctness of their formulations and sign conventions.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the calculations related to bound charge, with some participants noting discrepancies in their results and seeking clarification on assumptions. Multiple interpretations of the charge distributions are being considered, and some participants have adjusted their calculations based on peer feedback.

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Participants are navigating potential errors in their calculations and sign conventions, particularly regarding the definitions of surface and volume bound charges. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to reconcile differing approaches and understand the underlying physics.

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Homework Statement


The space between the plates of a parallel plate capacitor is filled with a dielectric material whose dielectric constant ϵr varies linearly from 1 at the bottom plate (x=0) to 2 at the top plate (x=d). The capacitor is connected to a battery of voltage V. Find all the bound charge, and check that the total is zero. 2. Homework Equations

C=\frac{Q}{V}

C=\frac{Aε_{0}}{d}

D=ϵE

D=ε_{0}E+P

\int D\bullet da = Q_{f}

σ_{b}=P⋅\widehat{n}

ρ_{b}=−∇⋅P

The Attempt at a Solution



First I found ε_{r} as a function of x, ε_{r}=\frac{x}{d}+1.
Assuming that the area of each plate is A, I said that the bound charge must be Q_b=A(\sigma_b+\int\rho_{b}dx).
Next, using D=ε_{0}E+P and D=εE I get that P=D(\frac{x}{x+d}).
Using \int D\bullet da = Q_{f} I get that D=\frac{Q_{f}}{A}.
Nowing using σ_{b}=P⋅\widehat{n} and ρ_{b}=−∇⋅P I get that \sigma_b=0 at x=0, \sigma_b=-\frac{Q_f}{2A} at x=d and \rho_b=\frac{Q_f}{A}\frac{x}{(x+d)^2}.
I integrate \rho_b from 0 to d and I get \frac{Q_f}{A}(\ln 2 -\frac{1}{2}).
So, now plugging those values into Q_b=A(\sigma_b+\int\rho_{b}dx) I get Q_f(\ln 2 -1), which only equals zero when there is no free charge on the plates of the capacitor, so I know I am doing something wrong. I am pretty sure I am going about this completely wrong, but I don't see any other way to do it. Any help would be really appreciated. Thank you.

Also, using C=\frac{Q}{V}, C=\frac{Aε_{0}}{d}, and D=ϵE I can get the capacitance C=\frac{A\epsilon_0}{d\ln 2} and Q_f=\frac{A\epsilon_{0}V}{d\ln 2} but I don't see how that will help me find the bound charge.
 
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xophergrunge said:
I get that P=D(\frac{x}{x+d}).
D=\frac{Q_{f}}{A}.

I think that's correct.

I get that \sigma_b=0 at x=0, \sigma_b=-\frac{Q_f}{2A} at x=d
Should ##\sigma_b## have a negative sign at x = d? I guess it depends on your sign conventions and which plate is positively charged.

and \rho_b=\frac{Q_f}{A}\frac{x}{(x+d)^2}.

I don't agree with the numerator ##x## in this expression.
 
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I get negative because \hat{n}=-\hat{i} since x is increasing as you move from the first plate (x=0) to the second (x=d).

I just re-did my calculation for \rho_b and I got d in the numerator now, and the whole thing has a negative sign. This will change my \int \rho_b dx and hopefully give me an answer that makes sense. Is that what you got?

Thanks.
 
Yes, I got ##d## in the numerator instead of ##x##. I got positive for ##\sigma_b## at ##x = d## and I got ##\rho_b## to be negative. I assumed the lower plate (x = 0) is the positively charged plate so that D, E, and P all point in the positive x direction.
 
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Great, I am getting that Q_b=0 now, with the bound volume charge equal to negative one half and the bound surface charge to be negative one half. Thank you so much.
 
OK, but how do two negative quantities add to zero?
 
Sorry, that was a typo. Only the volume bound charge was meant to be negative.
 
And I meant one half Q_f for both cases.
 
And I realized my mistake with the negative sign on \sigma_b, I was thinking of the surface of the plate rather than the surface of the dielectric.
 
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Great. Good work.
 
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Thanks again.
 

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