Finding the change in mass of a charged body if it loses 1 C

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The problem involves calculating the change in mass of a charged body that loses 1 Coulomb of negative charge, specifically through the loss of electrons. The context is rooted in concepts of charge, mass, and the relationship between them in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the charge lost and the number of electrons, referencing the conversion of Coulombs to elementary charges. There are inquiries about the formulas needed to calculate the mass change and the total mass lost.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some have provided key facts about the number of electrons corresponding to 1 Coulomb, while others express uncertainty about how to proceed with calculations. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the mass of the charged body and the mass of electrons lost.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the initial mass of the charged body, which affects the clarity of the problem. Participants are also questioning their understanding of the physics concepts involved, particularly in relation to the mass of electrons and the implications of losing charge.

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Homework Statement


The mass of an electron is 9*10^-31kg. Find the charge in mass of a charged body if it loses 1 Coulomb of negative charge. Use your answer to explain why electricity was originally thought to be weight less.

1 coulomb = 6.642*10^18 elementary charges.

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Everything given in question is above.

The Attempt at a Solution


Since we know that charging of a body depends upon transfer of electrons. So, if a body becomes negatively charged it will gain electrons that is its mass will increase and if a body becomes positively charged it loses electrons hence its mass will decrease. Don’t know where to start with formulas etc. help would be appreciated.
 
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Here you are losing negative charge, thus losing electrons. How many are lost? What total mass is lost?
 
I’m not sure. Are there formulas for it?
 
SimpleBurrito said:
1 coulomb = 6.642*10^18 elementary charges.
That's one key fact. (Consider an electron to be an elementary charge.)
 
I don't understand a lot of physics, but in this question if the body losses 1C of electrons, and 1C of electrons are 6.642E18 electrons, then you has the electron mass above in the statement of problem... Can you now solve this problem?

I do not know if maybe there is an error in my reasoning. ; -)
 
Doc Al said:
That's one key fact. (Consider an electron to be an elementary charge.)
I’m really not sure where to start with calculations, and it’s due tomorrow. If you’ve worked it out how’d you do it?
 
Can you answer this? How many electrons were removed from the charged body?
 
Doc Al said:
Can you answer this? How many electrons were removed from the charged body?
does it lose 6.642*10^-31 electrons?
 
if it does how do I find out how much that weighs in kg's?
 
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SimpleBurrito said:
does it lose 6.642*10^-31 electrons?
No. See this:
SimpleBurrito said:
1 coulomb = 6.642*10^18 elementary charges.

SimpleBurrito said:
if it does how do I find out how much that weighs in kg's?
Once you get the correct number of electrons, you can make use of the mass of each electron (which is given) to find the total mass.
 
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What’s the mass of the charged body?
 
  • #12
Doc Al said:
No. See this:
Once you get the correct number of electrons, you can make use of the mass of each electron (which is given) to find the total mass.
How? I don’t understand
 
  • #13
Alright I got 6*10^-12 is that right ?
 
  • #14
SimpleBurrito said:
What’s the mass of the charged body?
That wasn't specified, which makes the problem somewhat ambiguous.

SimpleBurrito said:
Alright I got 6*10^-12 is that right ?
In kg, that would be correct. (Don't forget units!)

Mass of electrons lost = (Number of electrons lost) X (mass of each electron)

How does that mass compare to the mass of an "everyday" object?
 

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