Finding the forcing frequency to maximize the amplitude

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The discussion revolves around an underdamped oscillator described by a second-order differential equation with a forcing term. The original poster seeks to determine the forcing frequency that maximizes the amplitude of the system's response.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the expression for amplitude and is uncertain about how to find the frequency that maximizes it. Some participants suggest differentiating the amplitude function with respect to frequency to locate the maximum. Others express skepticism about the complexity of the solution and propose looking for simpler methods or references.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different approaches to finding the maximum amplitude. Some guidance has been offered regarding differentiation, while others question the original poster's solution's complexity and suggest alternative resources for clarification.

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Homework Statement



Consider the following underdamped oscillator governed by:

u''(t) + ¥u'(t) + w02u(t)=Fcos(wt)

(a) Find the ge...
(b) The hom...
(c) What is the forcing frequency w for which the amplitude R in the previous part attains a maximum? Show that it is always less than the natural frequency w0.

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The Attempt at a Solution



So, I solved the problem in part (a) and put it in the form Rcos(wt-µ) in part (b). I've looked over my work several times; the answer is messy. You can try it for yourself if you really feel like it. Otherwise, trust me when I say that the long term solution (getting rid of the homogenous equation since it involves crap in the form e-at, where a is positive) is

[F(w02-w2)]/[(w02-w2)2+(wy)2]*√[1+(wy)2/(w02-w2)2]*cos(wt-tan-1(wy/(w02-w2)).

...so how do I find the right w to maximize the amplitude? I have no idea. Please explain in detail. This assignment is due tomorrow morning.
 
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if you have a function in terms of w for the amplitude, could you differentiate and set to zero to find the maxima?
 
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lanedance said:
if you have a function in terms of w for the amplitude, could you differentiate and set to zero to find the maxima?

There has to be a better way
 
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note there should be no homogenous part in the steady state forced solution anyway, only the driven frequency term
 
actually maybe you can clean that up a bit and its ok? - notice when you find the amplitude transfer function (divide by Fcoswt), the cos part with the tan inside will disappear as its just the same frequency response shifted by a phase given by the tan term
 

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