Finding the Launch Angle of an Artillery Gun

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The discussion revolves around determining the launch angle for an artillery gun to hit a target located 12.5 km away, given an initial velocity of 650 m/s and neglecting air resistance. The problem falls under the subject area of projectile motion in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking down the initial velocity into horizontal and vertical components and using kinematic equations to relate time, distance, and angle. There are attempts to derive expressions for time of flight and maximum height, along with questions about the validity of their calculations and methods.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the time of flight and vertical motion equations to relate the angle to the distance. There is ongoing exploration of different approaches, with no explicit consensus reached on a single method. One participant indicates they have found an answer, but the details of that resolution are not shared.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There are indications of confusion regarding the calculations and the application of trigonometric identities.

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Homework Statement



An artillery gun is trying to hit a target that is 12.5 km away. If the shell is fired at 650 ms-1 at what angle above the horizontal should the gun be fired to hit the target assuming that air resistance is negligible? [g=9.8 ms-2]

Homework Equations



I tried using v^2_y = v^2_0_y + 2gt and v_x = \frac{d_x}{t}

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried breaking the 650m/s into component vectors for x and y. I used the y component to try and find time it took to reach maximum height, then doubled this value to find total time. I used this value for time and plugged it into v=d/t in an attempt to maybe create an equation where I could find the angle for the cannon.

I got stuck at that point and I don't really know what to do. Any suggestions?
 
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Hi kvan, welcome to PF.

Your approach is correct. Show your calculations.
 
Thanks, well my component vectors look like this

y= 650\sin\theta
x= 650\cos\theta

I use the y value and plugged it into

v^2_y= v^2_0_y + 2gt

rearranged into

\frac {t = v^2_y - v^2_0_y}{2g}
\frac {0^2 - (650\sin\theta)^2}{-9.8*2}

since this value for t is just the time taken to reach maximum height I doubled it giving me

\frac {(650\sin\theta\)^2} {9.8}

I tried to simplify the value so I squared the 650 and divided by 9.8

43112(\sin\theta)^2

I then used the equation

v_x = \frac {d_x}{t}

which gives me

650\cos\theta = \frac{12500}{43112(\sin\theta)^2}

I had converted the 12.5km to 12500m. I attempt to move all the values of \theta to one side

\cos\theta\ = \frac{4.46*10^-4}{(\sin\theta)^2}

\cos\theta\*(\sin\theta\)^2 = 4.46*10^-4

I used trig identities to try and simplify the right side to only 1 trig function

\sin^2\theta = (\sin\theta)^2 = \frac{1-\cos 2\theta}{2}

I replace sin with cos

\cos\theta(\frac{1-\cos 2\theta}{2})=4.46*10^-^4

Multiply it through

\frac{\cos\theta - \cos^2 2\theta}{2} = 4.46*10^-^4

multiply both sides by 2

\cos\theta - \cos^2 2\theta =8.92*10^-^4

I factor out cos from the right side

\cos\theta (1-\cos 2\theta ) =8.92*10^-^4

That is basically all of my calculations. I get stuck at this point, any tips or pointers you guys can give?
Sorry if the math equations are hard to read, I'm kinda figuring out latex as I go along
 
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Oh man, I can't believe I messed that up. I tried using the method you put but I don't think it works, or I did something wrong.

v_f_y = v_f_i - gt

0 = 650\sin\theta - 9.8t

t = \frac{650\sin\theta}{9.8}

T = 2t = 2* \frac{650\sin\theta}{9.8}

T = \frac {650\sin\theta}{4.9}

y=v_o\sin\theta*t-\frac{1}{2}gT^2

y=0

0=650\sin\theta*\frac{650\sin\theta}{4.9}-4.9*(\frac{650\sin\theta}{4.9})^2

=(\frac{650\sin\theta ^2}{4.9}) - (\frac{650\sin\theta ^2}{4.9})

I'm not really sure how to solve for the angle at this point since both sides equal each other. But did I make a mistake in my calculations?
 
In the problem range is given and the velocity is given. Then

Time of flight T = 12500m/650*cosθ.

Now y = Vo*sinθ*Τ - 1/2*g*T^2.

Put y = 0 and substitute the value of T and solve for θ.
 
I got the answer finally, thanks so much for the help. :D
 

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