Finding the Maximum Time for a Rocket's Flight Using Kinematics

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The discussion focuses on calculating the total time of flight, T_{max}, for a rocket that accelerates with a constant net acceleration B until fuel exhaustion at time T1, after which it enters free fall. The equation derived for the rocket's motion combines both the powered ascent and the subsequent free fall phases. Participants clarify that T_{max} can be expressed as T_{max} = T_{1} + t, where t is determined from the kinematic equations. The key equation discussed is 1/2 g T_{1}^{2} + g T_{1} t - 1/2 g t^{2} = 0, which needs to be solved for t. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes finding the roots of this quadratic equation to determine the total time of flight.
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A rocket initially at rest accelerates with constant net acceleration B from t = 0 to t = T1 at which time the fuel is exhausted. Neglect air resistance. If the rocket's net acceleration, B, is equal to 1.0g, find an expression for the total time T_{max} (from liftoff until it hits the ground).


So T_{max} = T_{1} + t

\frac{1}{2}BT_{1}^{2} + BT_{1}t - \frac{1}{2}gt^{2} = 0

I know that t = \frac{BT_{1}}{g}


What do I do from here? I got T_{max} = 2T_{1} = 2 t


Thanks
 
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Looks okay, since, when the rocket is left without any fuel, its motion is a free fall with y(t) = yo + vo t - 1/2 g t^2, where yo is the well-known height yo = y(T1) = 1/2 B T1^2 = 1/2 g T1^2, and v0 = BT1. You're on the right track. Now just solve for t, and plug it into Tmax = T1 + t.
 
So is the equation \frac{1}{2}gt^{2} + gt^{2} - \frac{1}{2}gt^{2}?
 
The equation is \frac{1}{2}gT_{1}^{2} + gT_{1}t - \frac{1}{2}gt^{2} = 0, as you already wrote. Now solve for t.
 
If B = g how do we get t^{2} - 2T_{1}t - T_{1}^{2} = 0?

I factored the equation: g(\frac{1}{2}T_{1}^{2} + T_{1}t - \frac{1}{2}t^{2}) = 0. I guess they used the relation that t = T_{1} and multiplied both sides by 2?
 
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sherlockjones said:
If B = g how do we get t^{2} - 2T_{1}t - T_{1}^{2} = 0?

I factored the equation: g(\frac{1}{2}T_{1}^{2} + T_{1}t - \frac{1}{2}t^{2}) = 0. I guess they used the relation that t = T_{1} and multiplied both sides by 2?

Again, solve the equation (i.e. find the roots of the parabola) \frac{1}{2}gT_{1}^{2} + gT_{1}t - \frac{1}{2}gt^{2} = 0 for t. It is the only unknown.
 
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