Finding the net force on a charge in the center of 4 other charges.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net force on a charge located at the center of a square formed by four other charges. The user initially calculated the forces from each charge and determined that the forces from Bq and Dq were zero, while Aq and Cq contributed a net force of 5q directed Southeast. The user used the formula F=kQq/r² to find the force magnitude but received an incorrect answer. Participants pointed out the need to consider both x and y components of the net force, emphasizing the importance of correctly determining the signs for these components. The user was advised that the x-component of the force should be positive.
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Homework Statement


Four charges Aq,Bq,Cq, and Dq (q = 5.00 × 10-7C) sit in a plane at the corners of a square whose sides have length d = 83.0 cm, as shown in the diagram below. A charge, Eq, is placed at the origin at the center of the square.
DATA: A = 2, B = 4, C = 7, D = 4, E = -5. Consider the charge at the center of the square. What is the net force, in the x-direction, on this charge?
[PLAIN]http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8150/cleancopycopy.png

Homework Equations


F=\frac{kQq}{r^{2}}
F=qE

The Attempt at a Solution


What I did, is I found the net force for each side. Since Force=qE, it would be simple subtraction of the numbers. This gave the vector direction and magnitude of each force. The resulting force of Bq and Dq was 0 while the resulting force of Aq and Cq was 5q SouthEast (represented in the picture below).
[PLAIN]http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9906/cleancopy.png
The distance between Dq and Eq would be equal to \frac{\sqrt{d^{2}+d^{2}}}{2} since it would only be half the distance of the triangle created by using Pythagoras's theorem (which I got as a value of .5869m).
Now I used the formula F=\frac{kQq}{r^{2}}
F=\frac{8.988x10^9\frac{N*m^{2}}{C^{2}}*5*5x10^{-7}C*-5*5x10^{-7}C}{(.5869m)^{2}}*cos(45°)+0=-1.153x10^{-1}N
Note: the "0" is in there because the force vector of Bq to Cq resulted as 0.

I tried this but it says that it's the wrong answer. If you could help me, that would be great.
Thanks!
 
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Cmertin said:
What I did, is I found the net force for each side. Since Force=qE, it would be simple subtraction of the numbers. This gave the vector direction and magnitude of each force. The resulting force of Bq and Dq was 0 while the resulting force of Aq and Cq was 5q SouthEast (represented in the picture below).
[PLAIN]http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9906/cleancopy.png
The distance between Dq and Eq would be equal to \frac{\sqrt{d^{2}+d^{2}}}{2} since it would only be half the distance of the triangle created by using Pythagoras's theorem (which I got as a value of .5869m).
Now I used the formula F=\frac{kQq}{r^{2}}
F=\frac{8.988x10^9\frac{N*m^{2}}{C^{2}}*5*5x10^{-7}C*-5*5x10^{-7}C}{.5869m^{2}}*cos(45°)+0=-1.153x10^{-1}N
Note: the "0" is in there because the force vector of Bq to Cq resulted as 0.

I tried this but it says that it's the wrong answer. If you could help me, that would be great.
Thanks!

There are two components to the net force. You've calculated for one of them. Watch your signs.
 
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gneill said:
There are two components to the net force. You've calculated for one of them. Watch your signs.

Yes, there is going to be a y-component and an x-component however this question is only asking for
first post said:
What is the net force, in the x-direction, on this charge?
Thus, I'm confused as to what mistake I am making in finding the x-component of the vector.
 
Looking at you diagram, what do you think the sign should be of the x-component of the force?
 
gneill said:
Looking at you diagram, what do you think the sign should be of the x-component of the force?

It should be positive then, right?
 
Yup.
 
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