Finding the Polar Form of a Complex Number Using Euler's Relation

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Homework Statement


Using Euler's relation, prove that any complex number z=x+yi can be written in the form z= re[itex]^{i\theta}[/itex] where r and [itex]\theta[/itex] are real. Describe the significance of r and [itex]\theta[/itex] with reference to the complex plane.

b) Write z= 3+4i in the form z = re[itex]^{i\theta}[/itex]
(pretty sure I can get this one if I can get help on the proof.

Homework Equations



e[itex]^{i\theta}[/itex]= cos[itex]\theta[/itex]+isin[itex]\theta[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to prove it, got what it wanted me to get but I feel like I did it wrong because I don't know how to go about doing part b. there's also a part c but I didn't feel the need to put it up here because if someone can just explain to me the proof for these equations I think I should be able to get parts b and c
 
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How do cartesian coordinates relate to polar coordinates?
 
x = rcos[itex]\theta[/itex]
y = rsin[itex]\theta[/itex]

...is that all you have to do?

so that makes sense, but I guess I was wrong about knowing how to do part b then... I don't know how to find r and [itex]\theta[/itex] given z = 3+4i
 
yes
So you have your two equations
[itex]x=r\ Cos( \theta)[/itex]
[itex]y=r\ Sin( \theta)[/itex]

How would you find r in terms of x and y?
 
r = [itex]\frac{x}{cos\theta}[/itex]

r = i[itex]\frac{y}{sin\theta}[/itex] ??
 
aaj92 said:
r = [itex]\frac{x}{cos\theta}[/itex]

r = i[itex]\frac{y}{sin\theta}[/itex]


??

nono, r in terms of x and y does not contain any mention of [itex]\theta[/itex]

Make use of the fact that [itex]Cos( \theta)^2 + Sin( \theta)^2 = 1[/itex].
You should end up with pythagoras' theorem.

To find [itex]\theta[/itex], you can make use of [itex]\frac{ Sin(\theta)}{Cos( \theta)} = Tan(\theta )[/itex]
 
ok well I'm lost :/

can't i just take the fact that x = rcos[itex]\theta[/itex] and y= rsin[itex]\theta[/itex] and plug that into z = x +iy? because that'll give the desired results right?
 
oh... then i still don't know how to get part b. k well I'll have to figure the whole Pythagorean theorem thing out then
 
aaj92 said:
ok well I'm lost :/

can't i just take the fact that x = rcos[itex]\theta[/itex] and y= rsin[itex]\theta[/itex] and plug that into z = x +iy? because that'll give the desired results right?

You can but that isn't going to help you find r and [itex]\theta[/itex]
I'll show you how to find r, then I'll let you try and find [itex]\theta[/itex]

1. I'm going to square both of our equations to get

[itex]x^2 = r^2 \ Cos(\theta )^2[/itex]
[itex]y^2 = r^2 \ Sin(\theta )^2[/itex]

2. Next I'm going to add these equations together

[itex]x^2 + y^2 = r^2 \ Cos(\theta )^2 + r^2 \ Sin(\theta )^2[/itex]

3. I'm going to pull out a common factor of [itex]r^2[/itex]

[itex]x^2 + y^2 = r^2 \ (Cos( \theta )^2 + Sin( \theta)^2 )[/itex]

4. I now use the fact that [itex]Cos( \theta )^2 + Sin( \theta )^2 = 1[/itex] to find

[itex]x^2 + y^2 = r^2[/itex]

5. Taking the square root of both sides

[itex]\sqrt{x^2 + y^2} = r[/itex]

Which as I said before gives us pythagoras' theorem


So in b) you have z = 3 + 4i, we can now find the corresponding r, [itex]r = \sqrt{3^2 + 4^2} = \sqrt{25} = 5[/itex]

All that's left now is to find [itex]\theta[/itex]
 
oh my god! thank you! I didn't know you could just add them together sorry my brain is just refusing to work right now but yeah I see how you can get theta now. thank you so much :)
 
No problem buddy!