Finding the tangential component of acceleration

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The discussion focuses on calculating the radial component of acceleration for a ball moving in a circle with a radius of 4 m and an initial angular velocity of 13 rad/s. The angular acceleration is determined to be -3.25 rad/s², leading to a final angular velocity of 6.5 rad/s at 2 seconds. The radial acceleration is calculated using the formula ar = ω²r, resulting in units that confirm the calculations are correct. Participants clarify that the tangential component of acceleration remains constant over time for a fixed radius. The conversation also addresses confusion about units, confirming that radians are dimensionless and can be expressed as rad/s for angular velocity.
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EDIT: I meant radial in the title.

Homework Statement


A ball is going around in a circle of radius 4 m.

It goes with a constant angular velocity of (13 rad/s)\hat{k} for 0.5 s. After that, it takes 4 s to come to a complete stop.

Find the radial component of the ball's acceleration at 2 s.

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The Attempt at a Solution


My book says that to use the formula ar= w2r. However, w is changing, so I don't see how I can use that!

The only thing I can think of is to find the angular acceleration:
\alpha = w0 + \alpha0(t)
0 = (13 rad/s) + \alpha0(4 s). Solving for \alpha gives -3.25 rad/s2\hat{k}

Then I use another formula to find the angular velocity at 2 s:
wfinal = winitial + \alpha(t)
wf = (13 rad/s) + (-3.25 rad/s2)(2 s)
wf = 6.5 rad/s \hat{k}

Then use that first formula:
ar = (6.5 rad/s)2(4 m)
ar = (169 rad/sm)\hat{k}

Are those units correct? Really the formula for ar = dVt / dt, but is what I did ok?

Also, as an aside, the TANGENTIAL part of the angular acceleration would stay the same all the time, right? If I calculated it at 1 s, 2s, ... 4.3 s, it would not change?
 
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Hi jumbogala! :smile:

(have an alpha: α and an omega: ω :wink:)
jumbogala said:
… It goes with a constant angular velocity of (13 rad/s)\hat{k} for 0.5 s. After that, it takes 4 s to come to a complete stop.

Find the radial component of the ball's acceleration at 2 s.

Your calculations are fine, except that you've misread the question …

you only have 1.5 s of acceleration at 2s. :wink:
Are those units correct? Really the formula for ar = dVt / dt, but is what I did ok?


You're right to be worried … the units in the formula v = ωr are cm/s = rad/s times cm … and in the formula a = ω2r are cm/s2 = rad2/s2 times cm … the radians are dimensionless, and they just drop out. :wink:
Also, as an aside, the TANGENTIAL part of the angular acceleration would stay the same all the time, right? If I calculated it at 1 s, 2s, ... 4.3 s, it would not change?

Not following this. :redface:

"tangential part of the angular acceleration" makes no sense.

Do you mean the tangential part of the ordinary acceleration (ie, the tangential acceleration)?

If so, then yes, you're correct … for fixed radius, that's simply dv/dt, the derivative of the speed (= r dω/dt = rα). :smile:
 
Thank you!

I'm confused about those units still, though. Why are we using cm, if the radius is given in m? Is that just a convention?

Also, the rad drops out for a, but if I just want to write ω, can I still write rad/s? (Instead of 1/s).
 
jumbogala said:
I'm confused about those units still, though. Why are we using cm, if the radius is given in m? Is that just a convention?

oh, I made a mistake … I thought the question used cm. :redface:
Also, the rad drops out for a, but if I just want to write ω, can I still write rad/s? (Instead of 1/s).

Yes, ω is rad/s. :smile:
 
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