Finding time period and minimum length of threads

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the length of threads and period of swinging for an iron rod that is hung with threads. The time period of oscillation is determined by the distance of the rod's center of mass from the hinged point, and the moment of inertia must also be taken into account.
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Homework Statement


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An iron rod of length L is hung at a common point with threads of length \ell which are attached to the two ends of the rod. The rod is displaced a bit in the plane of the threads. What is the length of the threads if the period of the swinging of the rod is the least, and what is this period?


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The Attempt at a Solution


The CM of the rod will perform oscillations similar to a pendulum. Therefore, the time period of oscillation is:
[tex]T=2 \pi \sqrt{\frac{l'}{g}}[/tex]
where l' is the distance of the CM of rod from the hinged point.
[tex]l'=\sqrt{l^2-\frac{L^2}{4}}[/tex]
Substituting this relation in the previous equation and differentiating the result to find the minimum time period doesn't give me the right answer.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 

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You would have this period if the entire mass were concentrated in the middle of the rod. Which is not the case, so you have to take the moment of inertia into account.
 
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voko said:
You would have this period if the entire mass were concentrated in the middle of the rod. Which is not the case, so you have to take the moment of inertia into account.

Ah, completely forgot about it. Thanks a lot voko! That solved the problem. :smile:
 

1. What is the purpose of finding the time period and minimum length of threads?

The time period and minimum length of threads are important measurements in the field of mechanical engineering. They help determine the stability and strength of a structure, such as a bridge or building. Knowing these values can ensure that the structure can withstand external forces and maintain its integrity.

2. How do you calculate the time period of a thread?

The time period of a thread can be calculated by dividing the number of rotations in a specified time by the time taken for those rotations. This can be represented by the equation T = N/f, where T is the time period, N is the number of rotations, and f is the frequency of rotations.

3. What factors affect the minimum length of a thread?

The minimum length of a thread is affected by several factors, such as the material of the thread, the type of thread (e.g. coarse or fine), and the external forces acting on the thread. Additionally, the pitch, or distance between threads, can also impact the minimum length of a thread.

4. How can the time period and minimum length of threads be measured experimentally?

The time period of a thread can be measured by using a stopwatch to time a certain number of rotations and then calculating the time period using the equation mentioned above. The minimum length of a thread can be measured using a caliper or ruler to measure the length of the thread and taking into account the pitch of the thread.

5. Why is it important to consider the time period and minimum length of threads in engineering design?

Considering the time period and minimum length of threads in engineering design is crucial for ensuring the safety and stability of structures. Without accurate measurements, the structure may not be able to withstand external forces and could lead to failure or collapse. Additionally, knowing these values can also help engineers optimize the design and reduce costs by using the minimum amount of material necessary for a strong and stable structure.

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