Finding Water on the Moon: A Proposal for an Experiment

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of finding water on the moon and proposes an experiment to detect it using a telescope and video equipment. The evidence suggests that the volcanic-looking region of Aristarchus could be emitting volcanic steam, which could potentially contain salts that could create a sodium atmosphere on the moon. The hypothesis states that any steam released during the lunar night would freeze and then evaporate into a temporary fog in the morning. The proposed experiment involves recording the surface of Aristarchus as it moves from night to day, looking for signs of fog. While anyone with a large enough telescope could try this experiment, it may not be an effective means of detection due to the small size of the potential emission and the brightness of the lunar surface.
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I'd like to propose an experiment for finding water on the moon (see third point).

First point, the evidence: Apollo astronauts commented that the crater Aristarchus is the most volcanic-looking region on the moon. If earth, Venus, and Mars have feature volcanic regions (Hawaii, Beta Regio, Olymus Mons) why not the moon? A volcanic region could be emitting volcanic steam. I have heard of unconfirmed cloud sightings in the Aristarchus region. Volcanic steam would contain salts dissasociated into free sodium and free chlorine. The chlorine quickly disapates into space, leaving the moon with an atmosphere of 99% sodium vapour (at 1/10,000 of Earth sea-level air pressure). Where else could a sodium atmosphere come from, since the lunar surface is not hot enough to liquify or gassify sodium? Aristarchus is the whitest region of the moon, could this be from mineral salt deposits?

Second point, the hypothesis: During lunar night, the surface of the moon cools to below freezing point of water. Any steam released from a volcanic vent will freeze to the ground if it touches the lunar surface. Therefore some of any volcanic steam released should become frost during the lunar night. Morning sunlight will evaporate the frost into a temporary fog.

Third point, the experiment: Get a telescope with kilometer, or better yet, 100 meter resolution of the lunar surface and hook up videotape equipment. Wait until the Aristarchus region is moving out of night shadow into day sunlight. Video as sunlight terminator moves across region, watching for fog as frost is vaporised. Several taping sessions may be required to record observable fog banks, if the amount of vented steam is small or intermittant. Perhaps Schroder's Rill, near Aristarchus, is the best place to start looking. Is there anyone I can contact who might want to give this a try?
 
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Finding water on the moon is vital to our ability to establish an outpost. NASA already has a project in the works - the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) - see:
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/14apr_moonwater.htm
 
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CosmologyHobbyist said:
I'd like to propose an experiment for finding water on the moon (see third point).

First point, the evidence: Apollo astronauts commented that the crater Aristarchus is the most volcanic-looking region on the moon. If earth, Venus, and Mars have feature volcanic regions (Hawaii, Beta Regio, Olymus Mons) why not the moon? A volcanic region could be emitting volcanic steam. I have heard of unconfirmed cloud sightings in the Aristarchus region. Volcanic steam would contain salts dissasociated into free sodium and free chlorine. The chlorine quickly disapates into space, leaving the moon with an atmosphere of 99% sodium vapour (at 1/10,000 of Earth sea-level air pressure). Where else could a sodium atmosphere come from, since the lunar surface is not hot enough to liquify or gassify sodium? Aristarchus is the whitest region of the moon, could this be from mineral salt deposits?

Second point, the hypothesis: During lunar night, the surface of the moon cools to below freezing point of water. Any steam released from a volcanic vent will freeze to the ground if it touches the lunar surface. Therefore some of any volcanic steam released should become frost during the lunar night. Morning sunlight will evaporate the frost into a temporary fog.

Third point, the experiment: Get a telescope with kilometer, or better yet, 100 meter resolution of the lunar surface and hook up videotape equipment. Wait until the Aristarchus region is moving out of night shadow into day sunlight. Video as sunlight terminator moves across region, watching for fog as frost is vaporised. Several taping sessions may be required to record observable fog banks, if the amount of vented steam is small or intermittant. Perhaps Schroder's Rill, near Aristarchus, is the best place to start looking. Is there anyone I can contact who might want to give this a try?
Anyone with a 10+ inch Newtonian reflector on a motorized mount could probably try it. The bigger the scope, the better the resolution. IIRC an 8 inch, can in good seeing conditions resolve objects the size of the Coliseum. I suspect however this would not be an effective means of detection, since any emission would probably be much smaller than 100 meters, would require extreme magnification, and would probably be washed out by the bright surface. Wouldn't be hard to try though.

edit: From Chronos's link it was tried with a satellite crashed into a crater near the south pole, and nothing was detected. This doesn't mean you couldn't detect it in the manner you suggested, but even assuming the water is there, I wouldn't think it likely.
 
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Related to Finding Water on the Moon: A Proposal for an Experiment

1. How will the experiment find water on the moon?

The experiment will use a specialized instrument that is designed to detect the presence of water molecules on the moon's surface. It will analyze the chemical composition of the soil and look for specific signatures that indicate the presence of water.

2. Why is finding water on the moon important?

Water is a crucial resource for human space exploration. It can be used for drinking, growing plants, and producing rocket fuel. Finding water on the moon would significantly reduce the cost and effort of future missions as it would eliminate the need to transport water from Earth.

3. What other methods have been used to search for water on the moon?

Previous missions, such as the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, have used instruments to measure the amount of hydrogen on the moon's surface. This is because hydrogen is a key component of water molecules. However, this method can only provide an estimate of the amount of water present.

4. How will the experiment account for the possibility of false positives?

The experiment will use multiple techniques and instruments to verify the presence of water. This will include analyzing the data collected by the specialized instrument and comparing it to data from other instruments on the spacecraft. The experiment will also take into account other factors that may produce similar chemical signatures, such as other types of molecules or minerals.

5. What are the potential implications of finding water on the moon?

Finding water on the moon would not only benefit future space exploration missions, but it could also have significant implications for our understanding of the moon's formation and evolution. It could also open up possibilities for potential lunar habitats and the development of a sustainable human presence on the moon.

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