Finding x when Elastic Potential Energy equals Kinetic Energy

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The problem involves a mass oscillating on a spring, specifically determining the distance from the equilibrium position when the elastic potential energy equals the kinetic energy. The subject area includes concepts of oscillatory motion and energy conservation in mechanical systems.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting the equations for elastic potential energy and kinetic energy equal to each other. There are attempts to apply conservation of mechanical energy, with some participants expressing confusion about how to proceed without knowing certain variables like mass, velocity, or spring constant.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to equate potential and kinetic energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of mechanical energy conservation, but no consensus has been reached on how to resolve the problem effectively.

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Participants are grappling with missing information regarding the values of mass, velocity, and spring constant, which complicates their ability to solve the equations presented.

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Here's the problem I've been working on:
"A mass is oscillating with amplitude A at the end of a spring. How far (in terms of A) is this mass from the equilibrium position of the spring when the elastic potential energy equals the kinetic energy?"


Now I know that Us = 0.5*k*x^2 and K = 0.5*m*v^2.

I first thought that the answer would be .5 (half of A) since that would be halfway between fully stretched and at equilibrium, then I thought maybe at equilibrium, but neither worked. I also then tried to set the two equations equal to one another, but can't go anywhere with this. Any ideas? This is a fairly simple question that is completely stumping me...
 
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rkelley7891 said:
I also then tried to set the two equations equal to one another, but can't go anywhere with this. Any ideas? This is a fairly simple question that is completely stumping me...

That's what you should do. How far did you get? Try again. Don't forget that mechanical energy is conserved, which means that the ME at the point where potential energy is equal to the kinetic energy, the total ME is the same as at the point where the kinetic energy is zero, i.e. the point where all the mechanical energy is in the form of potential energy.
 
Ok, so I tried setting 0.5kx^2 = 0.5mv^2, and end up with x = sqrt(mv/k), which tells me nothing because I don't know v, m, or k. I tried using conservation of mechanical energy by saying MEi = 0.5kxi^2 + 0 (which means there's only potential energy in the system) and MEf = 0.5kxf^2 + 0.5mvf^2, and setting MEi = MEf, but still got nowhere... grr...
 
When you use mechanical energy conservation, you say that the sum of kinetic plus potential energy at one point is the same as kinetic plus potential energy at another point. I am sure you know this but you are not applying it correctly.

When the mechanical energy is all in the potential energy form at displacement x = A, you have

ME = (1/2)kA2 where A is the amplitude.

When the kinetic energy is equal to the potential energy at displacement x < A

ME = (1/2)kx2 + (1/2)mv2

Now you set KE = PE in the last expression and demand that the ME at displacement x be the same as the ME at x = A. That's mechanical energy conservation.
 

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