First Order Homogeneous Equations

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The discussion revolves around a first-order homogeneous differential equation given by dy/dx = (3xy)/(3x^2 + 7y^2) with an initial condition y(1) = 1. The original poster attempts to express the equation in the form F(x,y) = 0.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster describes their approach using a substitution v = y/x and expresses uncertainty about their steps leading to F(x,y). They question where their reasoning may have gone wrong. Other participants suggest checking the formatting of the answer and combining logarithmic terms.

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Some participants have engaged with the original poster's reasoning, providing suggestions for potential errors and confirming similar results. There is an indication of productive dialogue, but no explicit consensus on the correctness of the solution has been reached.

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Homework Statement


[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{3xy}{3x^2+7y^2}[/tex], y(1)=1

Express it in the form F(x,y)=0


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure where I'm going wrong. I let v=y/x,

v+x[tex]\frac{dv}{dx}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{3x^2v}{3x^2+7x^2v^2}[/tex]=[tex]\frac{x^2(3v)}{x^2(3+7v^2)}[/tex]= [tex]\frac{3v}{3+7v^2}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow[/tex] x[tex]\frac{dv}{dx}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{-7v^3}{3+7v^2}[/tex]
I think that's right so far, but I'm not entirely sure. Here is where I feel something is going wrong.
[tex]\frac{3+7v^2}{-7v^3}[/tex] [tex]\frac{dv}{1}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{dx}{x}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{3}{14v^2}[/tex]-ln(abs(v))=ln(x)+c

[tex]\frac{3x^2}{14y^2}[/tex]-ln(abs([tex]\frac{y}{x}[/tex]))-ln(x)+c=0
c=3/14 since y(1)=1

And therefore,
F(x,y)= [tex]\frac{3x^2}{14y^2}[/tex]-ln(abs([tex]\frac{y}{x}[/tex]))-ln(abs(x))-[tex]\frac{3}{14}[/tex]=0

The answer isn't right. If someone could help me find where I've gone wrong, it would be very appreciated. Sorry about the scripting. I'm not skilled at it yet, but, hopefully it's easy enough to read. Thank you!
 
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I got the same answer you did...

What is the answer you are given?

Perhaps the answer is just formatted differently?

Maybe try combining the natural logs?

ln(y/x) + ln(x) = ln(yx/x) = ln(y)?
 
Thank you, that was exactly what I needed!
 
Glad I could help!
 

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