Fixed Point Iteration Requirements

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Hi

I wrote a numerical analysis midterm earlier this week and there was one question I couldn't figure out. I was wondering if anyone had some insight.

What I've been told and what I've read in many many places is that
f(x) will converge to a fixed point on an interval I if
1. f(x) is continuous and differentiable on I
2. |f'(x)|<1 on I

Now the question I was posed was given x_{n+1}=\frac{1}{3}(x_n^2+2) prove that x_n\rightarrow 1 as n\rightarrow\infty if -2&lt;x_0&lt;2 (that is prove x_{n+1} is between x_n and 1 when n \geq 1)

What was most natural to me was to find the interval where |f'(x)|<1 which happens to be on (-\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2}). It easy to see (but not so easy to prove) that the interval (-2,2) will work as well. How would you go about showing that? Do think that it would be possible to generalize this such that the requirement |f'(x)|<1 would not be needed for fixed point iteration?

Anyway, hope this interest someone else.
 
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Have you looked at a few of the sequences produced from different starting points? The behavior is very easy to describe... it's the sort of behavior whose existence I would expect to be very easy to prove directly (particularly due to the algebraically simple nature of the iteration).
 
Yes I have looked at different starting points. I did show that for all starting points on (-2,2) you end up on (1,2). I also noted that the iteration function was strictly decreasing after the first iteration but I wasn't able to show that. I guess if I was more specific I would have said that was my question.
 
k3N70n said:
I did show that for all starting points on (-2,2) you end up on (1,2).
All of them? Are you sure?

I also noted that the iteration function was strictly decreasing after the first iteration but I wasn't able to show that. I guess if I was more specific I would have said that was my question.
In other words,
If y = (x^2 + 2)/3 and x is in (1, 2), then y < x

But you can do better than that... you know that it's strictly decreasing to 1; in other words, the distance from 1 is decreasing. This suggests it's more natural to seek to prove
|y-1| < |x-1|.​
 
Hurkyl said:
All of them? Are you sure?

Whoops. no. that should have been (\frac{2}{3},2)
but I guess it doesn't matter much because I had already showed that it converges on (-\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2})

So then it remains to be shown that on (\frac{3}{2},2) that

In other words,
If y = (x^2 + 2)/3 and x is in (1, 2), then y < x

But you can do better than that... you know that it's strictly decreasing to 1; in other words, the distance from 1 is decreasing. This suggests it's more natural to seek to prove
|y-1| < |x-1|.​
I'm still confused. I do know that it is strictly decreasing but I don't know how to prove it.
What you're suggesting to me is prove:

|x_{n+1}-1|&lt;|\frac{x_n}{3}-\frac{1}{3}| for any x_n\in(\frac{3}{2},2)
I still don't know how to do that though. I there just something really stupid that I'm missing.
 
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