Flow rate in unconfined aquifier?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the pumping rate of a well drilled into an unconfined aquifer, given specific parameters such as permeability and changes in water levels in nearby wells. The context includes homework-related problem-solving and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for the pumping rate using the equation Q = πk( H^2 - h^2) / ln (R / r) but questions the validity of their result compared to the provided answer.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the implications of water level changes in an aquifer, specifically whether a decrease in water level means it is shallower or deeper.
  • Several participants engage in a discussion about the correct interpretation of water levels and depths, with one participant correcting their understanding of how to calculate the depth based on water level changes.
  • A later reply identifies a potential error in the logarithmic part of the equation and questions the relevance of π in the calculation, suggesting that the diameter of the well may not be necessary for the equation used.
  • Another participant points out a possible typo in the original calculation that may have affected the results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the calculations and interpretations of the problem, with no consensus reached on the correct pumping rate or the implications of the water level changes.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, the interpretation of the well's diameter, and the specific parameters used in the logarithmic function.

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Homework Statement



A 40cm well was drilled penetrating straight into unconfined aquifier at depth of 90m . The other wells were drilled at a distance of 20m and 100m from initial well have decrease in water level of 12m and 8m from groundwater level . If the aquifier has a permeability value of 200m / day , what’s the pumping rate of well ?

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The Attempt at a Solution


Permeability in m^3 / s = 200/24/3600
H = 90 – 8 = 82
H = 90- 12 = 78

My working is Q = πk( H^2 -h^2) / ln (R /r)= π( (200/24/3600)x (82^2 - 78^2)) / ln(100/200 = 2.89m^3 / s , But the ans provided is 1.06m^3 / s , what's wrong with my answer ? The ans provided is in m^3 /s
 

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tzx9633 said:
H = 90 – 8 = 82
H = 90- 12 = 78
tzx9633 said:
depth of 90m ... decrease in water level
 
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what do you mean ? Can you explain further ?
 
tzx9633 said:
what do you mean ? Can you explain further ?
If the water level of an aquifer decreases, is it shallower or deeper?
 
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haruspex said:
If the water level of an aquifer decreases, is it shallower or deeper?
Shallower , am i right ?
 
tzx9633 said:
Shallower , am i right ?
Just realized my question was ambiguous.
I meant shallower in the sense of nearer the ground surface. If the water level falls it will be further from the ground surface, right?
 
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haruspex said:
Just realized my question was ambiguous.
I meant shallower in the sense of nearer the ground surface. If the water level falls it will be further from the ground surface, right?
yes , any part of my working is wrong ? I couldn't get the ans ...
 
tzx9633 said:
yes , any part of my working is wrong ? I couldn't get the ans ...
You are not getting my hints.
The first well is at a depth of 90m, i.e. its water's surface is at 90m below ground level.
The next well has a water surface 12m lower, so how far below ground level is that?
 
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haruspex said:
You are not getting my hints.
The first well is at a depth of 90m, i.e. its water's surface is at 90m below ground level.
The next well has a water surface 12m lower, so how far below ground level is that?
102 m ...
 
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haruspex said:
You are not getting my hints.
The first well is at a depth of 90m, i.e. its water's surface is at 90m below ground level.
The next well has a water surface 12m lower, so how far below ground level is that?
H = 90+ 8 = 98
H = 90 + 12 = 102

My working is Q = πk( H^2 -h^2) / ln (R /r)= π( (200/24/3600)x (102^2 - 98^2)) / ln(100/200 = 3.61m^3 / s , but the ans provided is 1.06m^3 / s , what's wrong with my answer ? Which is still wrong
 
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Sorry, I should have looked at the diagram sooner. I now see that the wording is misleading. Your original calculation of 82m and 78m was correct. The only error I see in your working is that you have ln(100/200) instead of ln(200/100), but that would have simply flipped the sign.
That said, if I put your numbers through my calculator I get 6.71m3/s.
The equation puzzles me. I do not understand where that π comes from, since it is not getting multiplied by a radius anywhere. The given 40cm does not seem to feature in the equation (is that radius or diameter?), but I can see why it might be irrelevant.

Edit, just noticed you had 200 instead of 20.., just a typo I guess. Now I get your 2.89.

Edit 2: I tried dividing 2.89 by 1.06. It gives a number very close to e. Perhaps a result of fat-fingering a calculator?
 
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