Flow through pipes and throttling valves .NEED HELP

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the problem of controlling water flow and pressure in a system involving a gravity-fed tank and a throttling valve. Participants explore the feasibility of using a throttling valve to achieve a specific flow rate at a reduced pressure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires whether a throttling valve can maintain the same flow rate while reducing the pressure from 18 psi to 7 psi.
  • Another participant provides a formula for calculating flow rate and pressure but does not directly address the throttling valve's effect.
  • A different participant questions if the flow would remain constant after passing through the throttle and whether there would be a pressure drop across it.
  • One participant suggests that using a reducer or nozzle could lower the pressure while maintaining flow rate, but expresses uncertainty about the throttling valve's impact on flow rate.
  • Another participant supports the idea of using a nozzle to reduce pressure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of a throttling valve versus a nozzle for achieving the desired flow and pressure conditions. There is no consensus on whether the throttling valve can maintain flow rate while reducing pressure.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various equations related to flow rate and pressure but do not resolve the implications of using a throttling valve versus a nozzle. The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of fluids in the system that are not fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in fluid dynamics, engineering applications involving flow control, or practical plumbing solutions may find this discussion relevant.

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Flow through pipes and throttling valves...NEED HELP!

I need some help with a real-life problem

I have an open topped water collection tank at elevation. The water is distributed by gravity flow from the tank via a pipe to a lower elevation. At the point of delivery, the pressure head is 18psi. However I need to deliver the water at the same flow rate that is filling the tank but at a reduced pressure of 7 psi. Can i use a throttling valve to achieve this?
 
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not sure if this will help but flow rate is calculated as: Q=VA

so the flow rate Q is equal to the velocity of the water times the area of the head.



if the opening is round the area, A, is computed as:3.1415/4 * D^2


Also the equation for pressure is: P = F/A so in your case it would work out to

A* 7psi= F

Hope this helps you in some way.
 


Thanks bro...although i understand flow rate calculations, I still can't relate it to the proposed throttle valve...would the flow remain constant after passing the throttle? Would there be a pressure drop across the throttle?
 


using a reducer or nozzle will lower the pressure head and flow rate will remain constant...
Throttle valve as far as i know, is a flow control valve, so will reduce the flow rate...Im not sure though.
 


As R Power says, use a nozzle to reduce pressure.
 

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