Fluid mechanics flowrate problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a fluid mechanics problem involving the time it takes for water in a triangular trough to drop from a depth of 2 feet to 1 foot. The initial calculations led to a confusion regarding the time, with one participant arriving at 3.04 seconds while the correct answer is 36.5 seconds. Key equations used include Bernoulli's equation and conservation of mass, with a focus on ensuring consistent units for variables like gamma and rho. After re-evaluating the area of the water flow, the correct approach involved integrating the volume change over time, confirming the 36.5 seconds result. The conversation highlights the importance of unit consistency in fluid dynamics calculations.
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Homework Statement


A long water trough of triangular cross section is formed from two planks as is show in Fig P3.66. A gap of 0.1 in. remains at the junction of the two planks. If the water depth initially was 2 ft, how long a time does it take for the water depth to reduce to 1 ft?


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Homework Equations


Bernoulli equation
p+1/2\rhoV2+\gammaz=constant

Conservation of the mass
V1A1=V2A2



The Attempt at a Solution



Q=water flow
V=Velocity of the water
A=Area
Vol=Volume of water
L=Length of the planks
z=height of the water level

A=0.1*L
Vol=L*z(t)2*tan(45)=z(t)2*L

Q=\frac{dVol}{dt}=2z(t)*z'(t)*L

Q=V(t)*A=-0.1*L*V(t)

0.1*L*V(t)=2z(t)*z'(t)*L

0.1*V(t)=2z(t)*z'(t)

V(t)=20z(t)*z'(t) (EQ1)

With the bernoulli equation we can find the velocity of the water in fonction of the height of the water level

\gammaz(t)=1/2*V(t)2*\rho

V(t)=\sqrt{\frac{2z(t)\gamma}{\rho}} (EQ2)

By combining EQ1 and EQ2
20z(t)*z'(t)=\sqrt{\frac{2z(t)\gamma}{\rho}}

\sqrt{z} dz = \frac{\sqrt{\frac{2\gamma}{\rho}}}{20} dt

By integrate

-2z3/2/3 = \frac{\sqrt{\frac{2\gamma}{\rho}}}{20}*t+C

When t=0, z=2 so C=1,89

if I put z=1, t=3.04s and the answer is 36.5s

I'm probably out of line, please help me.

PytLove
 
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I get your answer of 36.5 seconds. But what is the 3.04s?
 
I am sorry my sentence was wrong I meant:

when I put z=1, my answer is 3.04s. But the answer in the book is 36.5s.

I have no idea if my error is at the beginning of the problem or at the end. Please help.


PytLov
 
What are your units of gamma and rho? Are your terms in your equations uniform in units?

My solution is similar to yours. First I found an expression for the volume of the trough.

V = h^2

I use unit length to unclutter the equations. Then I take the derivative of the above expression.

I used Bernoulli's eqn. to get another expression for the rate of change of volume.
It is based on unit length as well.

I equate the derivatives. It is a variable separable differential equation. One variable is height, the other is time.

Then I integrate using definite integrals. The time integral goes from 0 to T. The height integral goes from 2 to 1. You wind up with an expression for T and it works out to be 36.5 seconds.
 
I found my error, I used 0.1*L for the area of the falling water but I needed to put it in feet. Thank you very much, you have no idea how much time I passed on that problem.

PytLov
 
Good for you!
 

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