Fluid - Work done to blow a soap bubble

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work done to blow a soap bubble with a radius R, considering isothermal conditions, atmospheric pressure H, and surface tension γ. The work is divided into two components: A1, which accounts for the two layers of the bubble leading to a Laplace pressure of 4γ/R, and A2, which involves the pressure p' and volume V in the logarithmic expression. Participants seek clarification on why the soap bubble has two layers and the rationale behind using the natural logarithm of the pressure ratio in the A2 equation. The conversation emphasizes the need for a consistent formula for work done in isothermal processes. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurately solving the problem.
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Hi everybody, I now encounter some problems when try to solve this:
Problem statement: Calculate the work done to blow a soap bubble to radius R. Knowing that the process is isotherm, the atmospheric pressure is H, the surface tension is γ.

Solution:
$$A = A_{1}+A_{2}$$
In which A1 is the work done to blow the bubble with 2 layers :
$$A_{1} = 2(4 \gamma πR^{2}) $$
A2 is the work done to blow the bubble to pressure p' = H + 4γ/R
$$A_{2}=p' V ln \dfrac{p'}{H}$$

The solution above is in my textbook, but I still help some questions
First, why the soap bubble has 2 layers, which leads to the Laplace pressure is 4γ/R?
Secondly, in A2 equation, why the ratio is natural logarithm is p' over H? In the isotherm, we have: $$\dfrac{V_{i}}{V_{f}}=\dfrac{p'}{H}$$
It doesn't match the formula used to calculate work done in the isotherm process.

Can anyone explain these problems in details for me?
Thanks a lot.
 
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huyhohoang said:
First, why the soap bubble has 2 layers, which leads to the Laplace pressure is 4γ/R?
A soap bubble is made of a thin film of water. The film has an outer surface and an inner surface.
http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/15E.html
Secondly, in A2 equation, why the ratio is natural logarithm is p' over H? In the isotherm, we have: $$\dfrac{V_{i}}{V_{f}}=\dfrac{p'}{H}$$
It doesn't match the formula used to calculate work done in the isotherm process.
It should match. Can you state the formula that you have in mind for the work done in an isothermal process?
 
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