Fluids: Buoyancy Homework - Prove Archimedes' Principle

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The discussion revolves around proving aspects of Archimedes' Principle in the context of buoyancy, specifically addressing the relationship between the volume of an object submerged in a liquid and the densities of the object and the liquid. The original poster presents two statements to prove: one regarding the fraction of an object's volume that is immersed when floating, and another concerning the water level when ice melts in water.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin the proofs, indicating a basic understanding of the concepts but a lack of direction. Participants question the definitions of terms used in the equations and suggest starting with specific shapes to derive relationships. There is a discussion about whether a cube is appropriate for the problem given the irregular shape of the object in question.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is an exploration of different shapes and their implications for the equations involved. No consensus has been reached, but there is a productive exchange of ideas regarding how to frame the problem.

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The original poster is working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an acknowledgment of the irregular shape of the object, which complicates the application of standard equations.

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Homework Statement



Using Archimedes' Principle and the diagram shown: (diagram is a "mass" of something in a liquid with an immersed portion (Vb) and an Un-immersed portion (Va)).

A. prove that if an object is floating in a liquid, the fraction of the object's total volume that is immersed (below the surface) is the ratio of its density (rho of the object) to the liquids density (rho of the liq.)



B. prove that when ice melts in a glass of water, the water level does not change.


Homework Equations



Buoyant force = rho x V x g

rho = m/V



The Attempt at a Solution




I really don't know where to begin. I feel like I understand these concepts, but I don't know how to go about proving these things. I realize that the buoyant force is equal to the weight of the displaced fluid, but I don't know where to take it.

Will anybody help me to get started and walk me through this?

Your help is appreciated!
 
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You have written:

Buoyant force = rho x V x g

rho = m/V


What do the terms represent? V of what? rho of what?
 
Start with a cube, side L and submerged depth D
Write an equation for the volume above an dbelow the water, in terms of L and D.
Write the mass of the box and the mass of displaced water, in terms of L D and density.
 
If I start with a cube, aren't all of the sides the same? In this problem, its not a cube I am working with. I sort of see where you are going with it, but might it work if I used the volume for a rectangle instead? The object in the problem is irregularly shaped. It is smaller on top than bottom. It is wider and taller in the immersed portion than in the above the water portion.
 
Start with any shape, but try to understand what the eqns say.
 

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