Focal Length problem for astronomy class

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The discussion revolves around a telescope with a focal ratio of f/7.5 that needs to be adapted for a spectrometer requiring an f/10 beam. The main challenge is determining the appropriate focal length for a 50mm diameter lens to achieve this requirement when placed 150mm in front of the telescope's focal plane. Participants express uncertainty about the mechanics of using additional lenses with telescopes and how they affect focal length. A hint is provided that a lens with a negative focal length, such as a Barlow lens, may be necessary for the setup. Understanding the arrangement of the telescope, extra lens, and spectrometer is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


A telescope has a focal ratio of f/7.5. You wish to use it with a spectrometer that requires an f/10 beam at its input. Compute the focal length of a 50mm diameter lens that, when inserted in the beam 150mm in front of the unmodified focal plane, produces the required beam.


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Focal ratio = focal length/diameter of entrance aperture. The notation f/10 means that the focal ratio is 10, not that the diameter is 10.


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried drawing some diagrams, which obviously can't be reproduced with ease here. I think the main problem might be that I'm not familiar enough with telescopes to know how one uses a spectrometer or an extra lens--must they go outside the telescope, thereby making the focal length longer, or can one or both be placed inside the telescope?

I also tried making up variables--saying, for instance, that the telescope's original focal length is 750 and its entrance diameter 100, which fits for f/7.5. But then I was stymied by the above fact: I don't know how a spectrometer works. I think if someone can give me information about the mechanics of the problem I should be able to make a better attempt.

Thanks.
 
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This isn't a question about the spectrometer. The only reason it was mentioned is to provide a rationale for the f10 requirement.

I will give you a hint: you need a lens with a negative focal length. These lenses are sometimes called barlows or Smythe lenses.
 
Okay. I understand that the question doesn't focus on the spectrometer, but I'm still pretty sure that I need to understand how the setup would work in order to make any progress. If I could just get a text diagram of how the device would look, like so:

telescope lens--extra lens--focal plane--spectrometer

Or

extra lens--telescope lens--focal plane--spectrometer

As of right now, I don't know how the variables (focal length and lens diameter) have to vary, so I can't make any inferences.
 
Finnegan;3835317 A telescope has a focal ratio of f/7.5. You wish to use it with a spectrometer that requires an f/10 beam at its input. Compute the focal length of a 50mm diameter lens that said:
when inserted in the beam 150mm in front of the unmodified focal plane, produces the required beam.


Does this sound like it is possible for the 50 mm lens to be placed in front of the objective? 150 mm in front of the unmodified focal plane.
 
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