Force Needed to Turn Generator at Maximum Output

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To determine the radial force needed to turn a 10,000W generator with a 1ft pulley, it is essential to understand the relationship between power, torque, and rotational speed. The discussion highlights that the force required varies based on the generator's design and efficiency, with calculations indicating that at different RPMs, the force can range significantly. For instance, 10,000N may be needed at one RPM, while only 2.8N is required at 60Hz. The conversation emphasizes the importance of using the correct formulas for power and torque to derive the necessary force accurately. Understanding these principles is crucial for effectively calculating the force needed for maximum generator output.
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Hi I was hoping someone could tell me the approx. amount of radial force needed to keep a 10000W generator turning while producing maximum output if there is a 1ft pulley connected to it that does the turning.
Thanks
 
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There shouldn't be any radial force to keep a generator turning.

Energy is force * distance, and power is energy/time.
So if you have a 1 metre radius drive wheel on the turbine and a force of 1 Newton at the edge pushing it around then the energy for each turn will be 2*pi*1 = 6.3 Joules, if you turn it once/second you will get 6.3Watts.
 
When generator has a load on it, it becomes more difficult to turn. So how many N do you need to turn it while it produces 10000W if the drive wheel is 0.3m?
 
I could turn it at one rpm with 10,000N or at 60Hz with 2.8N
Depends on the generator - normally they are designed for a particular speed which depends on the electricty frequency, the number of phases and the generator design.
 
Assuming perfect conversion of mechanical to electrical work, power=rpm*torque. You should be able to take it from there.
 
So if there are 746 watts/horsepower for turning it and the generator frame is 78% efficient. What would the motive force be for my 10,000 watt goal.
 
C'mon, make an attempt to calculate it with the formula given! This site is for learning, not spoon feeding!
 
Power = rpm * torque only in some amazingly bastardized units!

Power = omega * T = (2*pi*rpm/60) * Torque

in more conventional SI units.
 

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