Force of an electromagnet question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force exerted by a solenoid on a ferrous metal piece when they are in direct contact, with specific parameters provided: 0.42 amps, 1000 turns, and a cross-sectional area of 2.8502e-4 meters². The force equation presented indicates that with zero distance between the solenoid and the metal, the force could theoretically become infinite, raising concerns about the practical application of the equation. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the equation's derivation and its components, including the need for additional parameters like the solenoid's length and the metallic object's dimensions. Clarifications on the concept of magnetic pressure and energy density are also suggested to aid in comprehending the scenario. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities involved in calculating electromagnetic forces in ideal versus real-world conditions.
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Homework Statement


A solenoid which is 0 meters away from a ferrous piece of metal exerts how much force on it? there is 0.42 amps, and 1000 turns in the coil. the cross-sectional area is 2.8502e-4 meters^2

Homework Equations


Force = ((N x I)^2 x k x A) / (2 x g^2)

N = the number of turns in the solenoid
I = the current, in amperes (A), running through the solenoid
A = the cross-sectional area, in meters-squared, of the solenoidal magnet
g = the distance, in meters, between the magnet and the piece of metal
k = 4 x pi x 10^-7

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how to attempt seeing that the 0 meters of separation would cause the force to be infinite according to the equation
 
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Make sure you understand the equation and how it is applied.
Where did you get that equation - what is that part of your notes talking about?
 
Hint: magnetic pressure = energy density.

You also need to know the length of the solenoid. And finally you either have to know the length of the metallic object, or assume it is very long.
 
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