Force on Rocket: Find Force & Time to Zero

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force experienced by a rocket and the time until that force reaches zero. The rocket has a mass of 60,000 kg, with 25% being empty mass, and burns fuel at a rate of 250 kg/s while expelling gas at a speed of 1.6 km/s. The calculated force experienced by the rocket is 400,000 N, but there is uncertainty about whether this includes gravitational force. The time until the force equals zero is determined to be 180 seconds, indicating the rocket accelerates for only three minutes. The conversation concludes with clarification on whether to include weight in the force calculation.
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Homework Statement


A rocket with mass 60 x 103 kg (25 % of it is "empty mass"). The rocket burns the fuel at rate 250 kg/s and expel the gas at relative speed 1.6 km/s. Find the force experienced by the rocket and the time until the force equals to zero


Homework Equations


Δp = F.Δt
p = mv
W = mg


The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure what is the meaning of "empty mass". Is it the mass of rocket without fuel?

This is my attempt:
Force experienced by rocket
= Δp / Δt
= Δ(mv) / Δt
= v . Δm / Δt
= 1.6 x 103 x 250
= 4 x 105 N

Is that correct?

For the time until the force ceases:
Assume empty mass means the mass of rocket without fuel, so the mass of fuel = 75 % of 60 x 103 kg = 45,000 kg

Time = 45,000 / 250 = 180 s ---> this means that the rocket accelerates for only 3 minutes?

Thanks
 
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That all looks right to me, except that it's not clear whether "the force experienced by the rocket" is supposed to be just that due to the engine or is to include gravity.
 
haruspex said:
That all looks right to me, except that it's not clear whether "the force experienced by the rocket" is supposed to be just that due to the engine or is to include gravity.

If includes weight, it should be 4 x 105 N - weight, correct?
 
songoku said:
If includes weight, it should be 4 x 105 N - weight, correct?
Yes.
 
OK thanks for your help :)
 
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