What is the average force exerted on a rocket during acceleration?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a rocket with a specified mass that accelerates to a given velocity in outer space. The original poster seeks to determine the average force exerted by the rocket's thrusters during this acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of conservation principles and the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration. There are questions about the necessity of additional information, such as time or distance, to solve the problem. Some participants suggest that the problem's formulation may lack clarity regarding the required parameters.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of missing information. There is recognition that without time or distance, the problem may not be solvable as stated. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for specific parameters to calculate force.

Contextual Notes

The problem does not specify the time taken for acceleration or the distance over which it occurs, leading to questions about the completeness of the problem statement.

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Homework Statement



A rocket with a mass of 7.2 x 10^4 kg starts from rest in outer space and fires its thrusters until it is moving with a velocity of 100 m/s. What was the average force on the rocket due to the thrusters?


Homework Equations



1/2 mv^2 = Fxd

The Attempt at a Solution



I attempted this problem using conservation. However, I keep getting an answer with "d" yet I am unable to solve for d. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 
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I suspect the problem creator wants the average force per time unit. Do you know of some physical observable which depends on force and time? (And perhaps one that is also conserved in absence of forces)

Edit: upon rereadin, the time is not specified either. Is the problem formulation exactly as stated?
 
That would be acceleration?
 
Acceleration is only dependent on force and mass. As stated, the problem is only solvable if we assume a constant force, which seems a bit confusing since the problem mentions "average force". Had you been given the time it took to accelerate the rocket, things would have been different.
 
You don't have enough information to solve the problem. Is that the complete problem statement as given to you?
 
No, the problem does not give a time. However, if we use impulse = mv = Ft, then yes, if given the time then Force could be solved. It appears that this problem does not have enough information to solve. How do we know that there is not enough information to solve this problem?
 
You'll need a time or a distance over which the acceleration occurs. Does the question specify one of these?

Even the tiniest force will eventually push a craft to any given speed, if that force is applied for long enough.
 
I see. Also, I understand now that if a problem omits both time and distance there won't be enough info. to solve. This is true for the kinematic equations. Thank you!
 

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