Force required to keep block from sliding down (check)

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The problem involves calculating the minimum horizontal force required to prevent a smaller block (16 kg) from sliding down a larger block (88 kg) on a frictionless surface, given a static friction coefficient of 0.38. The gravitational force acting on the smaller block is calculated to be 156.8 N. The analysis shows that the frictional force must equal or exceed this gravitational force to prevent slipping, leading to the equation 0.322F_A = 156.8 N. Solving this gives a required force of approximately 487.7 N, which can be rounded to 490 N for simplicity. The discussion emphasizes the importance of using free body diagrams and Newton's laws for clarity in such problems.
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Homework Statement


The two blocks (with m=16kg and M=88kg) shown in Fig. 6-56 are not attached. The coefficient of static friction between the blocks is \mustat=0.38, but the surface beneath the larger block is frictionless. what is the minimum magnitude of the horizontal force \vec{F} required to keep the smaller block from slipping down the larger block?

Fig. 6-56 looks approximately like this.

...______ ________
...|...||...|
\vec{F}.|..m...||...|
...|_____||...M...|
.....|...|
.....|_______|
_________________________________
FRICTIONLESS GROUND

Homework Equations


\sum\vec{F}=m\vec{a}

\vec{F}fric=\mustat\vec{N}


The Attempt at a Solution


I denote \vec{F} from the problem text as \vec{F}A

I denote the force of block m and block M, \vec{F}mM

Likewise, the force of block M and block m is denoted \vec{F}Mm. I treat this as the "normal" force for the friction equation, but I'm not sure if this is correct.

Fgravm=mg=156.8 N

\vec{a}=\vec{F}A/104


\vec{F}mM=\vec{F}Mm=\frac{88}{104}\vec{F}A

\vec{F}fric=\mu\vec{F}Mm=.38*\frac{88}{104}\vec{F}A=.322\vec{F}A

To prevent downward motion \vec{F}fric must cancel out (i.e. be at least) \vec{F}gravm

\vec{F}fric=\vec{F}gravm
.322\vec{F}A=156.8N
\vec{F}A=487.7 N

Final answer 487.7 N

Thanks
 
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The result is correct. But in case of static friction, Ffric≤μFMm.
At the same time Ffric=mg.

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Looks good! Might want to round your answer to 490 N. I am not particularly thrilled about using F_mM = m/(m+M)F_A, although it is correct. Free body diagrams and the use of Newton's laws avoid having to use this equation.
 
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