Forces in Walls? Pressure Uniform?

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The discussion focuses on the forces acting within the walls of a house, specifically analyzing whether the pressure exerted is uniform in all directions. The total weight of the wall is calculated using the formula w·h·t·δ·g, where w is the width, h is the height, t is the thickness, and δ is the density of the wall material. It concludes that while vertical pressure is defined as h·δ·g, horizontal pressure is negligible due to the wall's ability to expand outward, influenced by the material properties such as Young's modulus (E) and Poisson's ratio (ν).

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Hi!

I have a question about forces inside of walls.

When you consider the walls of a house, they have a certain density [tex]\delta[/tex] and they create a force downwards, which becomes bigger closer to the ground. Assume we don't need to care about the weight of the roof or that of the atmosphere. The force in each wall, will be

[tex]\overbrace{\underbrace{w\cdot h\cdot t}_\texttt{total volume}\cdot \delta}^\texttt{total weight}\cdot g[/tex]

where w is the width of the wall, h is the heigth up to the top of the wall, and t is the thickness of the wall. So, independent of the width and the thickness of the wall, the pressure create by the wall above will be

[tex]h\cdot\delta\cdot g[/tex]

Now to my question: Is the pressure uniform? That is, will the pressure be the same in all directions, vertically as horizontally? The pressure vertically will be [tex]h\cdot\delta\cdot g[/tex], since when the material gets squeezed from the top and the bottom, it gets compressed vertically, so it creates a pressure vertically since it wants to expand in that direction. Besides, it needs to support its own weigth. But what about horizontally, does it want to expand it that direction as well? How big will the pressure be in that direction? Near to the pressure vertically, or almost zero? Does it depend on the material of the wall? (wood/concrete/metal?)

Thanks in advance!
 
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Let's approximate the wall as a uniform solid (no 2x4s, no plaster layer, etc.) and let's assume that the wall is much taller and wider than it is wide (this is typical, of course).

Then at the bottom of the wall the height is compressed by a strain

[tex]-\frac{1-\nu^2}{E}h\delta g\mathrm{,}[/tex]

(where [itex]E[/itex] and [itex]\nu[/itex] are the Young's elastic modulus and Poisson's ratio, respectively, of the wall material) and the wall expands outward with a strain of

[tex]\frac{\nu(1+\nu)}{E}h\delta g\mathrm{,}[/itex]<br /> <br /> which corresponds to thickness increase of <br /> <br /> [tex]\frac{\nu(1+\nu)}{E}ht\delta g\mathrm{.}[/itex]<br /> <br /> To first order, there is no pressure on the face of the wall, and that's why it's free to expand in that direction.<br /> <br /> I wrote a <a href="http://john.maloney.org/Papers/Generalized%20Hooke%27s%20Law%20(3-12-07).pdf" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">note</a> a little while ago discussing these types of analyses.[/tex][/tex]
 

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