Formulas from question that BATE pH calculator gave me

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The discussion centers around the use of the BATE pH calculator to solve a chemistry problem involving the pH of an alanine solution. The user initially struggled to calculate the pH using given concentrations and pKa values but found the calculator provided a pH of 1.55. After some confusion and trial and error, the user successfully determined the required amounts of alanine and water for a buffer solution but faced challenges with calculating the volume of HCl needed. Ultimately, the user realized they had initially solved the problem correctly but doubted their method. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the underlying chemistry rather than solely relying on calculators.
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Hello, I am EXTREMELY glad I found this forum.

I used a chemistry calculator that was posted by a poster here in a signature (BATE calculator from ChemBuddy) and it gave me an instant result to a problem I was trying to solve for a while, and that I should have been able to do on my own. I was given a problem that at one point in the solving of it I needed to find the pH of a solution. I knew the concentration of the HA ([HA]=0.200) and i had the information to find the first and second pKa (pKa1=2.34, pKa2=9.69) (the acid was Alinine, the amino acid). I needed to use this to find the pH of the solution at this point. From there I can find the rest of the problem, but it seemed to me that I couldn't get pH from that amount of information. The BATE calculator gave me a pH of 1.55, which seems like it COULD be right to me. I'm not sure. The big deal is knowing the way that the calculator could get that pH for me.

EDIT:I just found the formulas. They are WAY too complicated for my tiny mind. And there is no way I was meant to find it like that, so it's back to square 1 for me.

Also, in case I'm doing this all wrong, the question is as follows:

I need to prepare 4.00 L of a 0.200 M Alanine buffer with a pH of 5.0. I have the following reagents available:
  • Alanine (solid) in its zwtterionic form (net charge of zero, pI=6.00) at molecular weight 89.0 g/mol.
  • 0.01M HCl
  • Water

Find the amount of each reagent required.I know how much alanine is required (0.800 mol = 71.2g), and the amount of water is simple subtraction, but the volume of HCl solution is giving me trouble.
 
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I used the calculator again to get my final answers, but it was essentially trial and error. I won't get full marks for the question because I didn't use any normal design to find the answer, but the calculator has finally gotten me a solid answer.

However, I could still use an explanation as to how to solve this question if it were to come up on a final exam. Any help you can give is still welcomed.

EDIT: HOORAY! I just figured it out for myself. It turned out I actually had done it right the first time I tried, but I doubted myself and changed it. Thanks anyways, and the BATE calculator I was linked from this site is fantastic.
 
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Pisani said:
However, I could still use an explanation as to how to solve this question if it were to come up on a final exam. Any help you can give is still welcomed.

That is a problem! Don't come to depend on a calculator to find your answers without a complete understanding of the process unless you can use the calculator on your test!
 
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